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[–] [email protected] 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They want you to suffer. Their lives are miserable, and their media has taught them that it's YOUR fault. So now they want you to suffer.

Hint: the reason it's this way is that the elite control the media. If you're fighting with your financial equals on the other side, then both sides aren't getting together to fight the rich.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hint: the reason it’s this way is that the elite control the media. If you’re fighting with your financial equals on the other side, then both sides aren’t getting together to fight the rich.

The focus of this cartoon is, I believe, an Austrailian(?) politician. I think it works though as "generic oligarch" or "Republicans."

Don't forget folks:

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Validation of their feelings and a return to a mythologized past. Try having a reasoned political discussion with someone like this:

Well back in my day things were just better. America was the best and we didn't have to apologize for that. And the blacks and mexicans and what not didn't complain so damn much because folks were wired different back then and there wasn't nothin to complain about. Chuck Berry. You know Chuck Berry? Greatest rock and roller of all time and he was colored. Didn't nobody have anything to say about it, he was just damned good at guitar. Now the kids - black kids - listen to all sorts of damnable noise and them from the cities in gangs shooting each other up and corrupting good white kids in the small towns and suburbs getting them into drugs. We'll be lucky if we dont end up like another Chicago. And they whine and complain about racism, but we had a black president and look how that turned out. Granted he was a muslim and not even a citizen, but try tellin them that. I mean hell look at what Hillary did to all them folks at Benghazi - just let them muslims kill all of em, probably wouldn't have been politically correct to fight back. Dumb broad even wrote it all down - the emails. Had her dead to rights - she should've hanged but thats what you get when you have all those corrupt democrat senators in charge of the kangaroo court. And those democrat cities just keep letting illegals stay because they know they'll vote democrat - they don't care how many of them are raping and murdering women and kids long as they get their votes. Not even just the mexicans anymore, you got those communist gangs from venezuela taking over whole apartment complexes and the defunded police can't do anything about it. You know something was wrong with that Biden election - not just illegals voting but I saw on Fox that they were sending out whole reams of mail-in ballots to blacks and college kids and what have you. And then they take all the conservative ballots and conveniently lose boxes of them. Maybe Elon's going to fix it now since he knows all about those voting machines. Liberals voting for dead people too, but that's been on the news since Bush - I don't know why nobody does anything about that. Now you know what's really racist is planned parenthood - nobody hates babies, especially black babies, as much as planned parenthood. They kill more black babies than anything and the demonrats just keep convincing folks that its OK. Makes me sick that we kill hundreds of thousands of babies every year and i dont care what color they are. You know another thing? We knew which bathroom to use - we figured out a genius method. I'll tell you: drop your drawers and look down. Then you'll know. And you'll know if you should be on a mens or womens track team and if you should wear dresses. It's probably because all the kids have autism from the vaccines these days - now I guess they're mutants because of that COVID mRNA vaccine too - but not me. No sir. I'll stick with the DNA god gave me. That's probably why all the boys think they're girls now. Or cats and try to piss in litterboxes at school. People knew who and what they were once. They knew their place, worked hard, and didn't complain. Now if we can just get Trump in for a few more terms then he'll set everything straight and get rid of all those regulations so I can afford eggs again.

That is roughly paraphrased from my parents, grandparents, other family, some senile guy at the grocery store who wouldn't stop telling the cashier about Chuck Berry, etc. These folks are genuinely operating on an entirely separate set of facts and assumptions to us. Their brains are co-opted by decades of counterfactual propagandized conspiracy theories, which are too numerous and ingrained to easily disabuse them of. They are faced with an increasingly complex world and are constantly told versions of events that are terrifying or disgusting to them and spoonfed the solution: fascism, piece by piece, until you get MAGA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Reads like satire.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I couldn't even finish the paraphrased quote. I want to slap this nonexistant being who never actually said those things, because they never existed....but in a way they exist everywhere. Like I just screamed, knowing I can't reply to you, and put some facts in place, because you're not actually saying those things. You're showcasing the spirit of someone who does say those things. And I get it. I do.

I just also want to scream into a pillow.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Causing a complete collapse of society to own the libs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago

This is actually what many of them want: no government at all telling them what to do, but they’re safe because they got guns! And that’s where the thought process ends.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

"That'll show em!" They said, proudly looked at the divet in their face where their nose used to be.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They don't all agree on anything. Logic and reason aren't part of the requirements for MAGA.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Their actually frowned upon. They love the uneducated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Please tell me your choice of "Their" was a joke....

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Reactionary ideology is all about protecting privilege by demonizing marginalized people. They believe in zero-sum rights and privileges: in their view, expansion of rights for another group inherently means a loss of rights for them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bingo. Conservatives believe that if someone outside their group is given anything, they lost that thing.

It's stupid simple, zero-sum game theory is the only thing they believe in.

Lemmy: "It's RACISM!"

No, it's far simpler than that.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Owning the libs, getting to say r*tard, and grabbing them by the pussy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"draining the swamp, eliminating the deep state"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I agree, it's this kinda propaganda that they pump out there, and a bunch if other shit we've all seen. Lies. They lie, and like the asshats that owned the news papers when that's what people read, they own the social media now.

Nothing new under the sun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

What to do when they become the deep state? Will they purge themselves?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

They're a cult, everyone within the cult implicitly agrees on the reality that matches what the leader(s) say regardless of what the leader does. There are many pipelines into the cult, gamers/incels, being an outcast for some reason, the general shitty state of things, etc they all lead to a desire for things to be better in some way. The leader promises this and everyone in the cult agrees that following the leader will fix these things somehow. If the leader does something contrary it is justified simply by saying that you as not the leader don't understand. There's 5d chess being played and while you're awesome and good with 4d chess because you're in the cult only the leader and some of the higher ups know the 5d strategy. Don't worry and trust the leader. Drink the Flavor aid, your kids and friends already did.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago

It hurts people who aren’t in their arbitrary in-group, and they believe that is good. They believe any affliction to them by way of those harming the out-group is a necessary sacrifice to cleanse society of the evil sin of not being in their arbitrary in-group.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago

They get to say the n word with confidence, in certain situations, far from large groups of POC's, at their dive bars... surrounded by their christo fascist friends... where was I going with this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

"Look in his eyes, it's all lies. The stars after v be stripes have been swiped, washed out and wiped and replaced with his own face"

It was written about W but I think it applies again

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

It seems to me Trumps strategy is always to promise different, often contradictory, things to different people. Anti elite is the red thread.

By tearing the entire country down, I guess a lot of his base feels he is successfully fucking up the elites. They like him because his different and promises real change, and I guess that's what they are getting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

I personally think it's like a short circuit in the brain's reward circuit or something. If you can convince people that what they are doing is achieving a greater good, they will do an endless amount of evil in order to achieve it.

Those that wake up from this delusion often end up being horrified at their own actions.

It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway:

If you are anticipating being enriched by the suffering of others, you are not in the right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

Our explanations for the behavior of outsiders say more about our beliefs than theirs.

Even explanations that feel correct to us are almost certainly wrong in important ways.

There's plenty of scholarship on the various reasons people support fascism, that's probably your best chance for a full answer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

I assume it's "Sending all the foreigners back to where they came from" (even if they came from the US). Anyone who doesn't look, think, act or speak like them have to go so they can live in the utopia they think it will be once they've all gone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

From the replies, it seems that we’re all having a hard time pinning it down exactly.

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