Wait until his voters see their toy prices flying up
this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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So where is the US going to get its chips from then tax TMSC makes over 90% of chips?
TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.
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Awesome! Send them to Canada, we can build data centres and sell the cloud services back to Americans powered by the electricity that we expect to be tarriffed, and cooled by the water we won't sell.
Or Mexico! We're already on it. Sheinbaum is working to get a chip manufacturing plant up in Guadalajara. Exciting stuff, honestly.
Make the chips in Guadalajara, ship them out of Puerto Vallarta to Vancouver to power server farms in Surrey; cut the US out entirely.
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Hell, use the waste heat to power hot water heaters or something. It blows my mind that we don't do more cloud computing in cold environments. The servers produce heat, the people need heat, solve one problem with another. Instead we seem to be putting them in the driest and hottest climates available.
Indeed. My Alienware doubles as a space heater in my north facing office.
In the end, only the customer pays extras.
Trumpets cannot comprehend this
They will first go "I don't buy those damn consoles and gamer PCs every few years", then find out once their new iPhones will be much more expensive...
They seem to like cars a lot. Remember when there was a car shortage because chip manufacturing froze during Covid?
Issue with that, they would love to have "chipless" cars they can repair with a screwdriver and a wrench.
Everything will be more expensive, if it uses a modern CPU. Phones, tablets, computers of any type from any company (both Intel and AMD are fabbing consumer CPUs on TSMC, as is Apple and Qualcomm), TVs, set top boxes, everything.
Right now TSMC is basically the only fab anything consumer-facing is made on, which is not a great thing in general, but vice president trump just decided that anything electronic needs a hefty price hike.
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He emphasized that the proposed tariffs would leave companies with no choice but to invest in domestic production facilities to avoid high taxes.
No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because thereβs no way theyβre going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.
No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because thereβs no way theyβre going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.
TSMC is standing up fabs in the US, mostly because we're bribing them to do so.
The problem is that it takes literal years to build high tech manufacturing and isn't something you can yank out of your ass to satisfy some idiot politician.
By Taiwanese law, TSMC isn't allowed to move cutting edge processes to its US plant. The overseas operations have to be at least one gen behind.
From a strategic point of view, it makes sense for the Taiwan government to do this. They don't want the US to suck them dry then cut a deal with the mainland.
I mean, it's economic blackmail: we won't build the good shit anywhere else, so if you don't protect us, you get nothing.
Effective, but only if you're dealing with someone who is rational, and, well, have you seen the brain-worm oligarchs in charge of the US lately?
For Taiwan, it's a matter of survival, plain and simple. They're not going to give up their monopoly because without it they cease to exist. It does not matter how irrational the person they're dealing with is, because for them this is life and death, literally. TSMC is the single biggest national security asset they have.
That's just how tariffs work. They're not a weapon against enemy nations. They're a tax on Americans.
And nobody is going to bring production back to this fascist slave pen of a country.
More so when these plants take 10 years to build. They will pass along the cost and just wait him out.
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Can the fat fuck die from a coronary already?
Look at Henry Kissinger. If left to nature, Trump will live to be 120.
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Oh man, Trump...I had this thing I wanted to give you...where did I put it...oh yeah...π
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But I thought the Tim Apple donation to the trump inauguration was supposed to curry enough favor to avoid this.
ThisIsMySurpisedFace.jpg.
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And in two weeks there will be a special executive order to free his Tech Bro oligarch buddies from these tarrifs so Meta and Elmo are not forced to pay a dollar extra.
I've been looking at doing a new pc build but wanted to wait for the new GPUs coming out. Looks like I should just my new build before prices are stupid.
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