this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
17 points (69.8% liked)

Nintendo

18725 readers
168 users here now

A community for everything Nintendo. Games, news, discussions, stories etc.

Rules:

  1. No NSFW content.
  2. No hate speech or personal attacks.
  3. No ads / spamming / self-promotion / low effort posts / memes etc.
  4. No linking to, or sharing information about, hacks, ROMs or any illegal content. And no piracy talk. (Linking to emulators, or general mention / discussion of emulation topics is fine.)
  5. No console wars or PC elitism.
  6. Be a decent human (or a bot, we don't discriminate against bots... except in Point 7).
  7. All bots must have mod permission prior to implementation and must follow instance-wide rules. For lemmy.world bot rules click here
  8. Links to Twitter, X, or any alternative version such as Nitter, Xitter, Xcancel, etc. are no longer allowed. This includes any "connected-but-separate" web services such as pbs. twimg. com. The only exception will be screenshots in the event that the news cannot be sourced elsewhere.

Upcoming First Party Games (NA):

Game | Date


|


Donkey Kong Country Returns HD | Jan 16, 2025 Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition | Mar 20, 2025 Metroid Prime 4 | 2025

Other Gaming Communities


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Nintendo's Switch 2 reveal felt like a lightning bolt delivered straight from Zeus himself for everyone except, well, most people. In fact, since the console – which fans have spent years clamoring for – looks so much like its predecessor, some analysts predict it'll have trouble appealing to a general audience.

"I can imagine 'normies' being a bit confused," gaming industry consultant Serkan Toto tells GamesRadar+. "The device is bigger than the original Switch, but not comically large. The form factor, button layout, and overall design are very similar to Switch 1, so I can imagine issues arising when potential mainstream buyers look at the new device."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think people are familiar with numbers

[–] ICastFist 2 points 38 minutes ago

Unlike Microsoft's Xbox division

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

What's there not to understand? It's a better version of the first one. Isn't this what console makers have been doing since the beginning of time? Wii U was weird with the screen on the controller and everything. None of that with Switch 2. Just more of what made it good in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

If the graphics are a good enough upgrade I might pick one up. My current switch only gets used when a new Zelda game comes out (or I get nostalgic for some bowling)

[–] JackbyDev 35 points 20 hours ago

The Wii had so many peripherals and used naming like "Wii blah" so often, that WiiU was viewed as an attachment and not a new console. The name Switch 2 is very clear. I don't think it's comparable at all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago

This was written by someone with a raging Nintendo hate-boner. I'm certain because I have my own Nintendo hate-boner and even I'm not that deluded.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's like the switch, but 2. I just don't understand it. /S

--

The only thing I don't actually understand are what appear to be the exact same sticks as my drifty joycons, and the $70+ price tags on Nintendo games. If Nintendo can aggressively slash game prices on sale and fix their hardware issues, I might buy it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

They are reportedly using hall effect sticks this time which cannot develop drift.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

When you see articles with "analysts say..." these days, it's often just a wordy rewrite of some guy's twitter post. Gotta be careful

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

I find these articles pretty funny and out of touch with every human being I know. I saw the media shit on the Switch 2, but it was exactly what I expected so I asked all my friends with a switch how they felt. Every single one plans on buying the new one at or near release. Many will be buying two so they can play with spouses or their kids. The tally for purchases in my small middle-aged friend group alone is over 50. Nintendo releases too many amazing exclusive games for us to ignore. I know I can turn to emulation, but I prefer to do that for older games that already made their profit so I can support the devs that make me happy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If this was true the PlayStation 2, 3, 4 and 5 would have all failed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If parents weren’t confused by

Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox One Xbox Series S/X

Then the number 2 should be just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 53 minutes ago

I mean, they were. I have personally heard from people that couldn’t be bothered to understand the Xbox SKUs for the possibility of buying one because of how horribly Microsoft names things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The Apple IIe would never have caught on. Of course we all still use Windows 3.1 and do spreadsheets on Lotus 1-2-3 as we dont understand software generations either. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They did all look very different from their predecessors though, especially the ps1 to ps2 jump was quite significant in terms of design.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dunno, to my parents all consoles did look like cardboard boxes in the shop. What did clue them in, however, was the big number written behind the name.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

They're all Nintendos anyway, what's the difference?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah that's totally fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

Idiots. This isn't the Wii U, it'll be fine

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Some analysts are morons. The reason the Wii U failed was because it wasn’t clear that it was a successor console, and not just a weird add-on.

People have been conditioned to understand numerical console increases for over two decades now thanks to the PlayStation.

Edit: As an aside, are there any console manufacturers besides Sony who have had sequential model numbers consistently? I’ve been mulling this under the last couple of hours and nothing comes to mind!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The reason the Wii U failed wasn't because of its name. Sure, it didn't help the slightest but Nintendo's console iterations have struggled in the past because they hardly bring anything new. The Wii U brought literally just a gamepad (and stronger hardware, though marketing focused on the gamepad). Why pay so much for an incremental upgrade? The same fate nearly occured to the 3DS:

The Nintendo 3DS was released in Japan on February 26, 2011, and worldwide beginning the next month.[10][11] Less than six months after launch, Nintendo announced a significant price reduction from US$249.99 to US$169.99 amid disappointing launch sales.

After all, why pay money just for a 3D effect? Without continued support and selling at a loss, the 3DS would have bombed.

By the way, the Xbox One - despite its similary stupid name - never faced the same issues as the Wii U because people actually wanted it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Windows 7 8 9(lol) 10 11

Mac OS 7 8 9 X 11 12 13 14 15

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If gamers can navigate Xbox -> Xbox 360 -> Xbox One -> Xbox X -> Xbox S, I think they can figure out Switch 2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Heh, glad you mentioned Xbox - they’re a perfect example of consistent inconsistency! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Even if they don't buy consoles, it's how most thing works, phones are an obvious example. iPhone 14 comes after iPhone 13, but iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max are just versions of 14.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can verify that. I am a video game fan, though don’t always follow everything that closely. I remember seeing Wii U for sale and not really understanding what it was. It seemed like just a Wii with a weird controller.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had a coworker who was convinced that the whole thing was a scam. That it was just an upgraded Wii with a weird controller. So he went out and got a secondhand Wii U console. Just the console. Gave it to his kids for Xmas. Got mad when it didn't work. Eventually got a gamepad (and maybe the power brick? I don't remember if it's cross compatible) and ended up spending more than buying it new.

I'm pretty sure even he can follow Switch -> Switch 2.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I find myself feeling bad for a lot of people's kids and the ones in this story are no exception.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Of all the things you can say about the Switch 2's name, 'confusing' isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Gen X parents and younger are familiar with how the newest edition of a computer is "better" than previous ones. I dont see this being an issue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It also wasn't an issue with the GB and DS lines, and the Switch notoriously follows the handheld pattern quite closely, so I don't think this will be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Calling people "normies" as if Nintendo products and video games in general aren't mass market items.

Ick.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, people really have a big problem understanding "I'll buy the latest, since it's the best, number is bigger" . Concepts like "ok, all previous stuff works but new stuff only works here". Such crazy concepts. The GBC was a flop because GB already existed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

If "normies" are able to buy a Playstation 5 after having bought a PS4, 3, 2 and 1, Then I think Nintendo is going to be just fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Really?

"Normies?"

looks around for telltale signs that we've entered 4Chan. Like shit streaks on the walls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I actually agree with the article, though I think it is premature. The Switch 2 trailer does nothing to attract normal people to buy the Switch 2. The trailer showed that the S2 is slightly larger, has a new JoyCon attachment, and implied that the graphics are better. None of that is a reason to throw away your Switch 1 and buy the Switch 2. Most people don't care about top of the line graphics and those that do know that a PC or PS5 Pro is the top of the line and a high end phone will beat the Switch 2 for portable power.

Normal people want to hear the story about what the system offers. The Wii sold video games that made you more active instead of less. The Switch offered the same gaming experience at home and on the go. Every generation of PlayStation sells on top end graphics in a plug-and-play box.

What will be the unique selling point of the Switch 2? Hopefully we will know after the April announcement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The reveal trailer has almost 20 million views BTW.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think the GB and DS Lineup was much more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Sales struggles may happen but not for the -title- reasons. I mean that's why it's called Switch 2 instead of Switch U, switch Pro or some other bullshit. Nintendo is very clear. It's the same, but next gen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The console will sell but not better than the switch 1, I think cause the world is in one crisis after the another and gaming is seen as a luxury by many. When they see is like the 1 but only has a 2 some would not jump over ship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gaming is a luxury but it is also an escape. Alcohol sells well in any economy. When the market goes up, you sell champagne to celebrate and when it goes down, you sell beer to forget. Nintendo is firmly positioned as "affordable gaming".

Don't want to go out and deal with other people? Stay inside and game.

Tired of kids screaming homophobic slurs at you in CoD? Now you know why Nintendo limits voice chat.

Can't afford to take your kids to Mario Land at Universal? Bring Mario Land into your living room (on the Switch 1).

load more comments
view more: next ›