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[–] [email protected] 327 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Major props to those causing a ruckous internally there. That said, they likely fully expected a backlash and likely didn't care. Anyone who cares can be replaced by another sycophant, at a reduced salary even.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You get what you pay for. They'll be drawing from "the best of the rest" in a dwindling pool.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They pay well enough to get anyone who doesn't care about principles. Plenty people in tech like that.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They don't need the very best to make profit for a very long time, especially in a friendly regulatory regime. Check IBM for reference.

They own the social media market and have enough capital to acquire any plausible competitor, as have done in the past.

Losing top talent is only a significant price to pay if the firm or its competitors are still building new stuff that affects their bottom line. Meta is happy raking in the social media-ad profits. Google is happy raking in the search-ad profits. They're all busy getting more money out of the markets they've monopolized, not competing.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago

Zuck fully expects to take advantage of the H1B push President Musk is advocating for.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Its amazing how quickly these assholes have dropped any sort of facade they were keeping up towards their public image. At best they are doing whatever they think will get them the most money, more realistically they actually support this regressive bullshit. As a non-American I am so pissed at what a good portion of that country has voted for and those that stayed home instead of preventing this.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago

LOL welcome to corporate America. The only reason they paid lip service to causes like you mention is because it was temporarily a pathway to more profit. Now that Trump is in office (or nearly so, anyway) they have read the room and realized these beliefs are actually a liability now. So, surprise! They dropped em like a rock in the pursuit of more profits. Never never never trust a corporation to do the right thing. They sometimes accidentally do it in the pursuit of profits, but tying your hopes and dreams to a large corporation is a foolish plan. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU THEY CARE ABOUT THE MONEY IN YOUR WALLET.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

The oligarchs have paid their tithe to king Trump and feel like they are immune to consequences. So far they have been correct.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it is absolutely crazy how much the tide has shifted with trump’s reelection. These so-called “woke” companies (it was always performative, but they performed for the more just side) have all turned 180 and dropped to their knees to kiss the ring.

And this is because of the very real feeling that trump will abuse his power and unconstitutionally stay in office. The guardrails seem to have come down, and these fuckers are rushing to get on the fascist’s good side.

That should alarm everyone, so I’ll say it again: these companies are positioning themselves on the side of fascism because they don’t think we can stop them anymore. They are making business decisions that bolster fascists because there’s a fuckin dollar in it.

With the power of these fucking megacorps behind the fascist movement, it’s like sticking a rocket engine on its ass.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Something something 1930's Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Now we're doing headlines like this with tech companies in addition to politicians? These fuckers act with impunity because they can.

For some reason, it appears the unbreakable barrier for humanity is switching the fucking social media site you go to.

What would it take for people to consider not looking at Instagram and Facebook? A feed full of snuff videos?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

the unbreakable barrier for humanity is switching the fucking social media site you go to.

Facebook is quickly becoming a retirement community, exclusively for me-maws and pepes. It hasn't been the tool for college kids to organize keggers in nearly a decade.

But when alternatives to Facebook crop up - your Instagrams and TikToks and Discords and WhatsApps and Grindrs - they don't last long before being gobbled up by the bigger social media giants or shut down by hostile state regulators.

In the end, everything returns to Facebook, because the big companies can borrow money for free and staple on whatever small firm is seeing a lot of early growth. I give BlueSky another three years, tops, before one of the big social media giants acquires it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

I refuse to use Meta, and I block their various URLs in my home. Friends and family complain and give me grief about it. It's astonishing how much of a creep Zuck is, and yet he's got his hooks in deep, and some people are still addicted to his garbage.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (21 children)

Imagine this being your red line. Your totally prepared to work at Facebook, because there's absolutely nothing dodgy about that, but suddenly his transphobia is a problem.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago

Well, Frances Haugen left a while ago. Some people did go.

And, well, the best time to leave Facebook was to never join. The second best time is now.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago

It’s ok to let their platform spread misinformation and hatred that affects millions, but it’s not OK when that comes back and bites them in the ass.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Man they’re not even doing the dog-whistle thing anymore, huh? Fucking disgusting, I hope he experiences the everlasting warmth of a car fire in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Maybe we blow up another Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago

If they don’t blow themselves up, that is.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meta's anti-LGBT rules are closely knit to their ending the fact-checking: It is science denialism and linked to racism and vaccine skepticism.

Homosexuality and gender identity are not considered mental illnesses, Sex is not a binary, and Race is not connected to intelligence.

Bigots never liked science on these three, and now they use political power to impose their narrative.

Meta never moderated such discourse. Nor reddit nor twitter nor youtube. There was no censorship to end here. What this is, it is a free pass to punch down trans and gay people. It is incitement to violence, and Zuckerberg and Musk must go to the gallows for it.

Don't get me started on the toxic harassment these platforms have allowed against African and Carribean reparation activists, how they have destroyed the lives of feminists, and how they have named all Palestinians terrorists.

At this point race realists and gender essentialists have ensured political and technological control of the narrative.

There is no room for debating sealioning trolls on this one. If they don't understand the social dynamics against gender/sex/minorities at this moment, they are no better than brownshirts.

It is permabans and hooks and jabs all the way, for every single weird freak that backs this deranged hateful shit.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Five people interviewed….

“It’s total chaos!!!”

I despise Facebook as much as the next person, but sensationalism hurts more than it helps.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago

Getting five employee accounts on record is impressive.

There is not a zero-risk of retaliation.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

"Internal conversations and five people interviewed."

Let's be honest. For current employees, it's probably 10-100 times that. If my company did something controversial and then the press asked me for a reaction, I'd say "no comment" like it's my catch phrase. Unless you already have a job lined up (that can't be undone by "badmouthing your employer"), no one's being open and truthful.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (14 children)

we can only hope fb implodes sooner rather than later. I personally know multiple people working there who are very decent human beings who need to pay bills. I just hope their current trajectory will force employee action and paralyze fb long enough to hurt. Unlike other places it's not so simple to just hire a load of IT professionals and have any meaningful results short term, esp. if they have not been ramped up to speed by their colleagues. So it's not impossible, bowever tolerance threshold is kind of high for any action to take place. Wads of cash, unpaid mortgages and all. Employees of big tech are truly living in gold cages...

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Gee I wonder why he’s suddenly decided to start moving parts of the business to Texas… little Musk-ette over here…

All of this is very likely to kiss the ring of Herr Trump

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Unfortunately it's a very rational choice to cozy up to an incoming fascist dictator.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 days ago (1 children)

LMAO, employees are about to find out why a union would be a good idea. Gotta speedrun growing class consciousness.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Total Chaos” feels a bit overblown…

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's probably accurate. Imagine cubicles and desks smoldering in a filthy, smokey heap, copy machines smashed through the windows, sparking electrical conduit dangling from the ceiling. It's likely madness.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You know what would be an effective 'protest'? If employees started deleting important files...

[–] mke 41 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Sorry, I can't tell if you're serious or not.

It's extremely unlikely that facebook has in place a system that allows any lowly engineer to cause such damage alone. No hard drive hosting unique files no one else has, without backups, without security, and so on.

If you're a billion dollar corp that depends on an important recipe to make your product, you're not leaving the only copy of it on front desk with no oversight.

I don't see how deleting files would work as a form of protest. Would probably get you in trouble, though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Okay, so what are employees doing? The title says "employees protest", by "protest" do they mean "complain but continue to follow orders"? Because that's basically the norm for any job.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Meta was already enabling genocide in third world countries and countless other things but this is what caused chaos. Those employees have weird priorities, huh?

[edit] reworded slightly on the account of caused controversy

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

Not sure why you're being down voted, it's a fair point.

https://erinkissane.com/meta-in-myanmar-full-series

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

I guess being an a-hole has always been cheaper than not being one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He knows which way the wind is blowing...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This puzzles me. Why do these Meta employees care for LGBTQ people? How can anyone work for Meta and have a conscience?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Dude I've never had a single job that wasn't for an entity I didn't find morally reprehensible. I don't think most people will ever have a choice in this matter. You have to work to eat.

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