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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Only if the wealth is redistributed to the masses though.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah exactly. Normal inheritance means their kids or spouse inherit, and the number of billionaires remains the same.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Fun fact, if I were to inherit the wealth of a billionaire family member who was shot in public I’d get philanthropic real fast!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Many people say this. However of those who talk the talk, barely any ever walk the walk.

However I think if you are born an heir to a billionaire, you'd lack the perspective which might foster selfless philanthropy.

I'd like to think that if someone from the working class would randomly get such money they would. But it still seems unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

self preservation isn't a selfless motive, but if it results in philanthropy then that's a win.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly! If billionaires were put in a a position where they need to stop being billionaires and distribute their wealth or else people will kill them, they'd distribute their wealth real fucking fast

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would assume most of Elon Musk’s kids are not a fan of Billionaires.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

but if not, and they have two or more children ic tje amount gets split between them. Then you handlo those, and their children etc. It's financial homeopathy

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Starting a psyop on 4chan for making edgy school shooter wannabes start aiming at billionaires instead.

"You see anon, it's not that girls don't like you or that your class has 1 non-white person in cornbread America, it's that billionaires are leeches in society, and the cops they own would stop you. Don't fire at classmates, fire at the upper class."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For good measure point out that people migrating into the country are often because the 1% are offering them otherwise high paying jobs at below minimum wage, but thanks to the exchange rate that's like a million dollars an hour back in their home country.

Don't make it obvious that you're on the Left or they'll ignore you on principle. Make it sound like you're "one of them"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I tried to teach socialism for terminally 4chan people, it's hard, and can be immediately undone by /pol/, some other nazi shit, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

My OCD wonders if they factored in having to assassinate the heirs of the CEOs who immediately become billionaires, recursively until every fortune has been divvied up so many ways nobody has a billion anymore. Cuz that would be necessary if you really want to "run out" of billionaires, and would also mean you advocate executing children for inheriting a lot of money. This does require thinking beyond the simple meme, but go ahead - you can do it!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unlike royalty the transfer of wealth isn't instant so if you work fast enough you can achieve a brief window when there are no billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wealthy people likely have a living trust and the next trustee picks up immediately without needing time-consuming procedures like probate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People might be reluctant to assume possession of billions if people were murdering/ systematically killing billionaires. So, it might be achieved relatively quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I love how Luigi has become a defacto symbol of the revolution. I can't imagine Nintendo being happy about it.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Also, only about 28,000 hundred-million-plus-inaires on Earth.

For perspective, significantly more Palestinians have already been casually genocided by our bestie trade partner in that current conflict.

The blight upon our civilization of billions is not that large.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/number-of-people-with-100-million-has-doubled-since-2003.html

I'm not even suggesting they be adjusted, because I'm not a sociopath like they are. Use an economic guillotine, confiscate their exploitation gotten hoards for the commons(yes nationalize essential industries like utilities and Healthcare so they're owned by society), reshape the economy to stop rewarding speculative gambling with exploitation gotten chips over honest labor and vocations like teachers that keep civilization running, obviously institute a maximum wealth cap as other people live in this society going forward to prevent recurrance, bring their ego scores to zero for their murderous greed, let them keep $20 and give each of them a set of literal, cheap bootstraps, and let them get a real job.

Bar them from forming any kind of corporate entities or investing in anything other than a standard savings account for life, just as people convicted of computer crimes are sometimes barred from operating computers as they've proven they're a danger to others with them.

I'd be shocked if half of them didn't take themselves out of the equation suddenly being subject to the same reality as their current livestock.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That would involve people actually doing something rather than waiting for someone else.

And even then you guys would fall into conspiracy theories because you can't believe someone actually did something.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a prisoner's dilemma. Of fucking course we should revolt and save the world. Organizing that is not easy, especially when it makes you a target.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

And this is the heart of our predicament - the ones in control understand this. If they keep our misery at a low simmer they get to extract everything from us, slowly, we won't revolt. I worry that our only hope may be that they miscalculate and the pot boils over. I really don't want that, but I'm having a harder and harder time imagining real improvements anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Everyone is doing something. Working, going to school, living their lives. Even people who have no job, who walk the streets, are doing something: surviving.

Most people’s survival instincts prevent them from taking drastic measures like this, even when things are really bad. Think of how many people who had every incentive to take a shot at Hitler but did not, despite all the horrors of the Nazi regime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So many heirs tho...

What do we do if their heirs just inherit it?

Anakin Skywalker time? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If we're waving magic wands around, change the tax laws to limit how much you can inherit.

Changing the step up basis thing is actually pretty low hanging fruit.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stepupinbasis.asp

https://smartasset.com/investing/buy-borrow-die-how-the-rich-avoid-taxes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I mean, if we could easily change laws, we wouldn't need to murder a bunch of rich people, just seize any assets that exceed a certain limit (a wealth cap essentially) and call it a day. No bloodshed. Frankly, I'm not a fan of violence if there is a peaceful path.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One small problem:

Billionaires are not closed in together in a poorly secured room, thus you will need a lot more effort to just shoot down one of them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

The 55th World Economic Forum will happen in a few weeks, but the security will probably be, like, almost twice as tight as the average school.

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Just arrange a dick measuring contest, and the largest dicks with the smallest wieners will come together. (pun not intended)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We'd have have to use drugs or something first to get them to sign over their wealth. Probably film it, make sure no one thinks it was under duress. The whole process could take months to make sure it looks legit. CIA level brainwashing maybe? I donno, just spitballing. Then just make sure they can't backtrack on everything by finishing the job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not necessary. After the first round of billionaires has been dispatched, their nepo babies will see the writing on the wall and sign it over quite willingly without any kind of coercion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

This, make them afraid of having too much at once. It's what people recieving disability payments are already used to. (You actually get cut off and removed from healthcare providers if you're disabled and have 2000 in savings, and your spouse's income counts so you basically can't get married.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I haven't actually done the math, but by percentages I think they are probably fairly close.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (9 children)

There are 1050 estimated billionaires in the US. In 2024 we've had 38 school shooting related deaths.

So a bit more than 2 months...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

29 years, assuming we maintain 2024 school shooting levels. I propose that we just skip the schoolchildren shootings altogether, and just skip straight to French Revolution rates of aristocrat deaths. They unalived over 14,000 aristocrats over just a two year period.

Given demographics in the US today, those are rookie numbers. I think we could really show history how it ought to be done and bump that up to some really fast math.

The real unfortunate downside though was that 70% of the casualties during the reign of terror was worker/peasant class. Getting at those rich people meant they had to go through 700,000 human shields that the wealthy put in front of themselves. I figure our current wealthy elite wouldn't be reached until a far higher number of Americans perished.

There's a lot of fucking bootlicker assholes out there still.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They killed them. Unalived sounds stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Modern aristocrats are also much more mobile than their ancien regime counterparts.

On a completely unrelated note, I wonder how far the FOSSCAD community has come with developing surface to air missiles.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately billionaires rarely try to educate themselves about the world at all, let alone gather together in a single cramped room to be educated. Still, it's a nice idea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Good point, even though the numbers don't check out.

There were 69 children killed this year. 813 billionaires in the US. It would take almost 12 years.

Edit: These are only the school shootings, not the all deaths of minors

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Where did you get that number? John Hopkins is reporting 48,204 gun deaths for people aged 0-17 in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

“There were 2,526 gun deaths in 2022 among 1- to 17-year-olds, averaging to nearly 7 per day.”

48,204 is total gun deaths.

These are both horrific figures and in no way am I intending to diminish either.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

This is ignoring inheritance!

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