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Any Generators, Power Banks, Solar Panels, etc...?

Edit: So I'm gonna answer my own question. I'll probably freak out and would have zero generators to deal with it. Heater is Gas, but I don't know if gas would work during power outage. Cooking, well there's a butane burner stove. I have 3 10000mah batteries, but they have 60% efficiency due to power loss during transfer, so its effectively 6000mah, enough to roughly charge my 5000mah battery once, 3 batteries is 3-4 charges. Then I'd be bored with zero entertainment, along with all the food melting and going bad, very not fun 🙃

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm living in an apartment on the 8th floor. Heating is geothermal heating (from a big geothermal plant owned by the city I live in). So no heating in winter. My second worry would be the food spoiling in the freezer. I'd probably move everything down into the car to drive to my family's place (that's a bit of work, 8th floor, no elevator) and then notice that my car is trapped inside the garage below our apartment block due to the electric garage doors not opening. I'd probably get some help from other people in the house opening them by hand (might involve dismounting of the electronics box).

In other words, in case of a longer city-wide outage I'm screwed.

In case it's a shorter one and my electric window blinds in the bedroom are still closed, I wouldn't worry and find someone to screw.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

I think I'd be able to macgyver enough to get by for some weeks

The only prepper thing I have is an alcohol camping stove.

I have ~250Ah worth of charged lead-acid batteries in the garage. The only way to charge them would be my car.

I have a 50 liter compressor fridge/freezer that runs off 12V. It draws maybe 4Ah, so perishables would do fine.

Heating is en electric heat pump, so that's a no go. I have an inverter ready to hook up to the circulation pump to keep pipes from freezing. The Mrs has an obscene stash of tea candles, so I guess I'd pop some of those under some radiator pipes to heat that circulating water.

The water tower in town would dry out in a day or two. We've got a well with our neighbours for watering, but it's drinkable. I'd have to borrow the inverter for the pump to fill up jugs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Probably pretty long. There’s plenty of wood and propane, dry food, and salt to preserve things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Did two weeks after Helene. Generators, UPSs, and self-hosted services kept us entertained and the security cams powered up. There was some rationing for three or four days until the gas stations got power but we were ready. By the second day we were running the air conditioner at night to sleep and didn't miss any football games on tv.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Tons of food in the fridge that would do fine outside with current temps. House is gas heated. I'd say we'd be good until we ran out of food. Probably a month or two including stuff from the pantry. Stove top and oven is also gas.

Very little electricity though, but you dont need that to survive. I'll play with my tools if I get bored. Would suck without much light

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

My house has a gas-fired boiler. In theory, I should keep heat during a power outage, right?

In practice, the circulation pump needs electricity, so the house gets kinda chilly during power outages.

Hmm, I should see about getting a backup battery for the boiler.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

I have a wood burning stove with peltier device powered fans to distribute the heat.

It gets hot enough to boil water so I can cook on it.

And I have about 4 days worth of continuous fire firewood.

So assuming that I couldn't just hop in the car and drive somewhere else I guess I would be okay for about 4 days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Solar power on the roof, powerwall battery backup, and 3100 gallons of rainwater. All electric appliances here. We could go weeks without power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I take it you live somewhere that's fairly sunny year round? We had a visit from a door to door solar salesperson stop be recently, so I dug in a little. We get a little over 6 peek solar hours in the summer, but come winter we're down to around 2. Our energy use last month was about 25 kwh/day. There's basically no chance of us generating all of that :( Add in a third of that being my plugin Volt, which charges at night, and it's really not looking good for generating all our own power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

San Diego, so yeah except for " winter."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

As Hurricane Helene recently reminded me, pretty much nobody is prepared. Even the people/my family members who like to think they're prepared. Nope. Didn't really help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

We lost power for at least a week after Helene. There were plenty of people that weren't prepared and freaked out, but by and large, I saw people pitching together to share fuel, food, water and company. It was a tough time, but it was nice seeing the kinder side of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

When I first moved into my house I did try to create an emergency kit but with a lack of serious thought. A few weeks ago, the plastic water jugs had degraded enough to spontaneously start leaking. So yep, that’s why you don’t do that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That's because the best preparation is a strong knit small commune worth of people (20-100) with diverse skills, good planning and community coordination, that's set up somewhere away from disaster prone areas with plently of arable land and abundant natural water.

The above is way more difficult than the average American plan : one nuclear family of various ages, a shelf of canned goods, way too little water, a propane stove, and a gun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I’ll be ok for a bit. My chest freezer will be good for several days, and my family room has a gas heater that doesn’t need electrical. Also gas stove top doesn’t need electrical, and I have a propane grill so cooking is set. For entertainment, I have books on kindle that should be good a couple weeks

Fridge, car, phone good for a day or so until batteries are used up - do we still have cell service? I’d try digging out my camping gear but hopefully didn’t leave fuel with that.

We have excellent power reliability here. I don’t think it’s gone more than 2 hours in the last 20 years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

About a month. We have a supply of water and since it’s winter stuff will stay frozen because I can put it outside in the shed. Plenty of wood to cook over. But after a month I’m screwed on that end. I do have a natural gas tank for a grill but the grill doesn’t work. So if I can find a grill to use that will extend my time.

The only problem: toilet. Not sure if water can keep going if there is no power at the water plant and water treatment plant. Maybe they run by solar.

Heating the house. There is a way to use the wood to heat the house. But it won’t be pretty. I don’t need to heat the whole house. Just a part of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

I’m downhill from a water tower which I guess is good. However I live in a major metropolitan area with water pumped from 100 miles away. So I can’t imagine that working

When they built a new tower, they were talking 1/2 supply, so I guess that

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm literally dead in about a week. All of my heating, cooking, and refrigeration are electric, and I have no backup supply or the means to safely add a backup. So I'd have no food, very little water, and I'd freeze to death.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Try downloading this guide and following some of the advice in it. It's Sweden's emergency preparedness guide.

https://www.msb.se/sv/publikationer/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer-pa-engelska/

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The longest power outage I've ever done was 2 weeks. The town kept the water and sewer going, we kept warm with a kerosene heater. My current house has a natural gas heater. I don't keep like gallons of water stored up but I have a camp stove and a gas grill, I can cook if I need to, and we have three vehicles fueled and ready.

I'm prepared for basically any natural disaster that leaves the state government in power. If it's so bad that the governor isn't around to give a press conference than I'm either also already dead or I'm going to be the guy that flies an F/A-18 into the alien's superlaser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you have a water heater you have a supply of drinkable water in the 40-80 gallon range, not counting what is in your pipes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I don't know if I want to drink what will roll out of my water heater's drain. I don't think it's been drained since installed and I'm kind of afraid to do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Been there, done that. I am currently in the home I inherited from my grandfather, and so I have a lot of old-fashioned things like a gas stove and a non-electric refrigerator. Only communication would be any issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

careful with catalytic fridges, they will kill you. make sure you install monoxide sensors everywhere around it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

I'm way ahead of you on that one. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Used to love losing power during ice storms as a kid. Sure, I couldn't play Bassin's Black Bass on SNES, but my dad would stoke the fireplace and light up the extremely dangerous kerosine heater that smelled fucking awesome. Then we would chill with my mom on the couch and read Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

That kerosine heater never did blow the family up..

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have a fireplace, a spring, and laying hens. I'd be fine, just incredibly bored.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I... um... What's the spring for? 🤨

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Water spring, not metal spring.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago

Oh! Hahaha that makes a lot more sense 😄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Long enough to where if power hasn't come back by then, it's not coming back at all. And at that point, power isn't going to be the biggest problem.

Water heater holds ~40 gallons and that's easily drainable. Worse comes to worst, there's a creek at the back of my property.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You could probably get a couple of Life straws for that Creek and buy yourself several weeks of drinkable water.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not worth IMO. There's already a couple weeks of water in the water heater. If I end up needing the straws, water is only gonna be the first of many problems and most of them I won't have solutions for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I was always told that the thing to keep track of is 3 minutes 3 days 3 weeks.

3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

It is less than a day until my home becomes unusable. I need the heating every day because it is winter. The heating runs on gas, but it also needs electricity.

This cannot kill me because the car is still working and the next town is only 10 minutes away.

Power outages around here are very rare, and usually shorter than 6 hours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why is no one talking about water?

I got a generator and some fuel, some rice and beans. Should last a couple if weeks. I feel like it us unrealistic to plan for longer. If there is a society wide collapse, it really doesn’t matter how much gas you have in your generator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I’ve got beer. The legend is all those IPAs were originally created to survive months long voyages

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

I live in a pretty dense urban center (São Paulo), so I just guess the emergency departments on the city are going to take care of us while the energy come back. I have the privilege to live in one of the nicest neighborhoods here, so our infrastructures is well maintained.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Probably indefinitely, as long as there was food and a source of unfrozen water that can be purified. I've gone camping in temperatures down past -20f for days on end. The cold sucks, but will not kill you as long as you're dressed for it, have a sleep system/shelter to keep you warm, and have enough food to fuel your body. Fuel/fire is downright luxurious in the cold, but not strictly necessary unless you have inadequate insulation from the cold and your body can't keep up with the heat loss.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've got 5000w worth of generators, two wood stoves, water heater and stove are gas, and we have about three months worth of food in feezers/pantry (we stocked up right before covid lockdowns and have kept up with it since). We would probably be good for a while, but we have a lot of family in the area that would shorten that by a bunch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Hey cousin! Crazy apocalypse, right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

We live in a large straw bale house in the country. We have a generator (and a dozen large gas cans which we rotate by filling our van then refilling the gas cans) which runs all the lighting circuits, the fridge and freeer, our propane in-floor radiant heat, water well, and our propane tanlkess DHW. We also have a wood stove in the center of the house that we can use to heat the house very effectively and more than a winter's worth of good, dry hardwood in an enclosed wood shed. We have ample supplies of food and other necessities.

Durign major weather events we leave our front door unlocked and our friends and neighbors know that they can come, bringing bedding and just find an open couch or floor space.

We'll be fine for a good long while

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

My God in Heaven, you live in a Norman Rockwell painting.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

My family probably wouldn't make it past 3 weeks. We are dependent on rechargeable electronic insulin pumps. Pumps last 3-5 days. Can be recharged on a laptop, maybe 2-3 times. Can recharge in the car a few times. Our real problem is no food.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd hear me shout, "again?! Damn it".

I got a bunch of antique lamps and a wood fired stove. I also got a generator for the fridge and freezer. So I'll be fine until the cannibals come knocking. If the town runs out of gas I'll just cook everything and invite everyone.

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