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original post in: https://lemmy.world/post/23364294

You know, i do actually very often concur with these kinds of content, like the ones saying billionaires are leaches on society and governments are often used as a weapon to protect the ruling classes.

But man... when i come to lemmy i kinda want to only see memes, and funny stuff... even communities that are not niches to political content get political way too often. Like gotdammit, when i get to c/comics i just want to see funny drawings, i'm way too tired to want to see your lame class war comic...

Is that a feeling i'm the only one feeling?

edit: i think what makes it worse is that very often they're not even funny, just literal propaganda, "good guy propaganda", maybe, but still propaganda

edit n2: edited title and body slightly to be "open ended" on mod's request

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes I want it, sometimes I don't.

It'd be nice if I could collect channels into custom feeds, so I could have a separate feed for my political channels. And if those feeds could be shareable

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

That's such good news! It's especially important given how small many of the communities are compared to their counterparts on Reddit. I want to group all my miniature wargaming communities into one feed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting.

I'm not really a reddit user so idk how multireddits work. Is it something a user sets up for themselves? Or is it something public like a subreddit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

It's basically what you said in your previous comment, personal custom feeds defined by users for themselves. Some could be made public, but the usual use case was private.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You are not alone. This place often feels like an astroturfed propaganda disbursement machine, even with a lot of filters and block lists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm more tired of dozens of reposts of the same porn that I can't filter out because NSFW is a catch-all for anything 18+. I also have an issue with the quality of the said porn :-P

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Start making your own

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People who complain about content on lemmy should probably just look for different communities. Or maybe not be psychotic right-wingers looking for 8chan edgelord content.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The amount of hate I get every time when I call out political opinions posted as "memes" is incredible. Every time it's either some mental gymnastics about how it actually counts as meme or alternatively ad-hominem accusations about my underlaying motives of only calling out left-wing political memes and never right-wing ones (I wonder why).

The truth is that my feed is almost exclusively politics despite me blocking every single political instance other than the ones for general news. I bet there's even a community dedicated to political memes but no. Some people absolutely have to inject their political views everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The amount of hate I get every time when I call out political opinions posted as "memes" is incredible.

Just gonna leave out the detail that you go to communities that are about the content you're seeing to complain about said content?

mental gymnastics about how it actually counts as meme

Still too stubborn to just admit you don't know what a meme is I see

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I just had a look, because I remembered there was a "non-political memes" community. Turns out it's on lemmy.ml ([email protected]). Not the biggest fan of lemmy.ml due to the instance-wide bans: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

I guess I might open a discussion on [email protected] to discuss a potential new community. Probably next year.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As moderator of the community [email protected] I very much enjoy the leftist and anarchist stuff. Thanks for asking. ;)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

opinion acknowledged, opinion respected.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My opinion:

I just wish someone would stop with all those leftist memes like ‘future of humanity under socialism vs. capitalism’ because it’s just, in a crude manner, cringe. They’re not very unique, and fail to underline even the basic differences between the two ideologies.

Capitalism is not understood by everyone here, and I feel like those making this stuff are extremely young, have yet to understand what the world offers.

It’s clear that socialism does have its merits but making memes simply mocking capitalism without showing crude memes… not worth it.

I just downvote those kind of posts, they’re awfully low quality and low effort.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

What annoys me is the assumption that socialism or communism would fix all of our problems and noone would ever do or feel something bad again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't mind edgy leftist memes, I just get annoyed at how overconfident MLs in particular are about their broader grasp of political philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love it when they try to give me reading assignments. I was there when the deep magic was written, freshman!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In 99% of the cases they haven't even read beyond the Wikipedia summary anyway, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You’re lucky if they get that far. I’ve had people argue over facts that were easily verifiable by multiple sources. I’m too old to do their research for them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are not the only one. I am starting to unsubscribe from communities that I feel like it is simply too much of. I get that people want it, and that's their choice, but it's feeling a bit overwhelming lately. I thought it might decrease after the USA election but... nope.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Posts complaining about "politics" and "propaganda" are invariably made by people who want to see those things, just the kind aligned with their politics.

I think the first time I saw this meme format was around 2002-2004. And I've seen it 10,000 times since then. And if OP is posting this in good faith, this will be the first time.

And BTW, there is no such thing as a space without propaganda or politics. Only spaces where the politics and propaganda are homestyle and cozy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

I really mean it, this is "my kind" of propaganda. I'm just way too over-saturated with this stuff. Like it's nice having a space to talk about that, but when we get to the point where "jokes" are just politics without any punchline i think the "jokes" become a bit pointless

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Posts complaining about “politics” and “propaganda” are invariably made by people who want to see those things, just the kind aligned with their politics.

I disagree, IMO a lot of it is just low effort trash spammed across multiple communities, multiplying how annoying it is. It's not that I disagree with the idea, I just think "elites bad, updoots to the left" is mind numbingly lazy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

It does get very predictable and repetitive. I feel like the conversation goes the same way under each political meme.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is that a feeling i’m the only one feeling? edit: i think what makes it worse is that very often they’re not even funny, just literal propaganda, “good guy propaganda”, maybe, but still propaganda

I don't think its your intention, but this kind of reads like "go be poor somewhere else". The uptick in the messages you're seeing are from people that are on the losing end of society, and that losing end is growing more and more all the time. So far I'm lucky (and it is just luck) to not be there, but I recognize that ignoring, or worse silencing, them is the wrong way to go.

Their messages have value because they aren't being heard. If that keeps up, it will mean the shredding of our society and we all lose. So in short, I'm fine with the "class war" messages as they are here against the rich establishment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I understand your view, but for a bit of context i'm poor too. I live in Brazil and my origin state the poorest in my country. The current region i live is also sometimes biased against people like me. My financial situation is also quite shit right now.

Maybe i'm trying to be an escapist, seeing my own problems on unfunny internet comics, but say "go be poor somewhere else" really wasn't my intention with this post.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have heard this sentiment before ie where people in stronger economic situations are more likely to birch endlesslly about class struggling while people beat down just need some escape.

You ain't wrong we all got to cope.

The class struggle is just human condition. People have a right to cope as. They see fit.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I have little patience for memes, and even less so political memes. The right wing stuff is all woman hating fascists, and the left wing stuff are people who would send me to a camp or chase me out of the country for having a slight disagreement with them on my specific take on socialism.

There's often no room for discussion or disagreement, because "its a joke". So at that point it's just political brainwashing, no matter which side it is on.

Of course, sometimes it's fun, and sometimes it's good. There's a role for humour to play in highlighting injustice and systemic absurdity. I'm not completely against it. I just have little patience for for it.

Which is why I mostly use this platform to look at pictures of owls.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

OP be careful, you've inadvertently spoken the sacred incantation and summoned the dreaded political content right into this very thread!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I saw a post about someone who made sliders (mini hamburgers) and everyone they'd served them to so far liked them. I wish we had more posts like that one. The problem with Lemmy is there is not enough active niche communities for peoples interests. This is one thing Reddit does much better due to the scale of the user base.

It feels like a brief respite every time I stumble on a post like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

[email protected] to discover active communities

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It is really interesting that the original post got removed. Guess people don't complain about .ml without reason.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

tired of seeing political content in non-political communities. I'm sure there's a political memes community let us live in peace please.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, sometimes.

But, like Lemmy is (almost) entirely populated by people who so strongly disagreed with the political drama (either uspol or redditpol) of reddit that they took specific action about it.

It's a wonder Lemmy isn't all radical politics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I normally only look at communities I am subscribed to and am not subscribed to places where such things are usually posted. You could try that too.

In general I dislike communities with concepts like "pics", "comics", "memes", etc., I don't want to see just any pics or comics, I want to see ones I might find interesting. Lemmy is unfortunately not yet a big enough place that it has specialized communities for everything.

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