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Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 43 minutes ago

Ah, the bullshit pseudo-scientific "excited delirium" defense.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

What exactly was the cause of the intense emotional and physical experience in this case? Because that sure as fuck still sounds like murder to me.

If you're anaemic and I cut your arm and don't let you do anything about it and you slowly bleed to death, I still was the murderer even if the anaemia killed you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

No no. You don't understand. It wasn't the knee on his neck that killed him. It was his feelings about the knee on his neck.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

Experiences such as.... being pinned to the ground by a murderous thug and choked with his knee on your neck for nine minutes?

This mother fucker.

Unfortunately I can no longer find the uncensored version of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clSpERAWR3o <-- If anyone else is familiar with this and knows of the uncensored hosted online somewhere, I'd love to know. This was very nearly the first video that made me realize something different was going to happen after this police killing.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

DOJ opposing, but who listens to them anymore? They had four years to handle the Trump situation, and in a month they'll be taking their orders from him.

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-urges-judge-reverse-decision-allowing-derek-chauvin-review-george-floyds

IMO this is all to remind Trump that Chauvin exists hoping for a pardon.

as part of the former Minneapolis police officer’s efforts to challenge his conviction on a federal civil rights charge

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

If Trump pardons this fuck we're all marching on Washington, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Trump pardons this fuck

What a beautiful way to stoke division after the recent sliver of solidarity after the CEO assassination

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

There will be more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

Only half his sentence is federal (violating Floyd's civil rights). Trump can't pardon the murder charges.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Who's we? If it's the group that didn't bother showing up to vote, I wouldn't hold your breath.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 49 minutes ago

Oof, that choice of words...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

As we've seen recently, there are things that individuals can do to make a difference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

If you are waiting for the infamous straw that broke the camels back, I'm afraid it broke long ago, the camel is dead and nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Shit will straight up explode everywhere if so

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I am not from the US, so I might be out of league here, but haven't recent US protest movements been somewhat ineffectual?

In a global context, successful protests movements tend to take active measures; blockading of transport and key commercial zones, organisation on a level that makes security forces ask themselves uncomfortable questions.

To be fair, such movements also tend to have very strange support (be it broad based or high approval amongst a very large minority).

It is not my intention to be defeatist or overly critical, just some thoughts. I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, yes. U.S. protest movements are generally not enough to make change. It takes a massive swing in public opinion before politicians consider doing something about it. Protesting helps, but it usually isn't enough. It took more than protesting to end the Vietnam War. Americans were majority in favour of it at the height of the protesting. And even when it started getting unpopular with the majority, Nixon didn't do anything about it until it benefitted him.

The only case I can think of where protesting (mostly) was enough- if you include the protests that did get violent and were deemed riots- is the civil rights movement. Even then, it took Kennedy getting assassinated for Johnson to put it through as a part of Kennedy's legacy. Was Kennedy ever going to push a civil rights act through? Was it all political hot air? We'll never know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

With the US civil rights movement it's worth considering the international context too. The cold war was was it's early phase of intensity and it was difficult for US to compete in terms of soft power with formal discrimination laws. The world was undergoing intense decolonisation during that period.

That being said, I don't support a defeatist view of the viability of protest. But you do need clear goals and a sufficiently large core group of people willing to take risks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I wasn't trying to be defeatist. That's why I said they were not enough. More than protesting has to be done. In the American political system, that means a shitload of lobbying and networking to get to the ears of the people who need to hear it. Plus doing whatever you can to get the media on your side. The media turning on Nixon (and vice-versa) was a big help in turning people against Vietnam. There was a real "if the president says so, it's okay" attitude before that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Oh god, yes, it will, and I guarantee this time people will be armed.