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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There's no need to give £10 billion to people who don't need it just because they say they weren't told about something that they were in fact told about.

Even if the government had loads of money available — which they don't — further enriching the wealthiest age cohort is not something they should do. As things stand, they would need to cut, tax or borrow to fund this. No one should be taken seriously unless they can say which of those things the government should do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I feel like I'm missing something here. The law was changed in 1995, to come in to effect from 2010 onwards.

How is 15 years not enough notice?

[–] Buckshot 5 points 2 months ago

Theres an extra detail that is often missed, in 2011 the roll out was accelerated by 4 years and there's some evidence it may have taken in to 2014 to notify everyone affected so it's possible you may have been expecting to get a pension in 2016 and with just over a year's notice find it's been moved to 2020.

They also increased the age to 66 and now 67 for everyone.

I have more sympathy for those but that's a much smaller cohort than the 3M figure being reported.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not missing anything, they don't have a leg to stand on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Women against state pension inequality" getting mad that state pension inequality was removed has to be the funniest thing I've seen all day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like most people they want it to be equal by them getting more. Not them getting less.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They were already getting more, the options were either others get more (which results in them getting less as taxes would increase while gdp decreased) or they get less?

So they get less either way?

Sure, it could've been handled better but that doesn't change the fact they've got a stupid name for what they're campaign for

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yank here, article is paywalled, what is a Waspi?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Women Against State Pension Inequality is a voluntary UK-based organisation founded in 2015 that campaigns against the way in which the state pension age for men and women were equalised. They call for the millions of women affected by the change to receive compensation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Women Against State Pension Inequality

...campaigns against the way in which the state pension age for men and women were equalised

The name and the description seem to be at odds with each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yep for decades women got to retire 5 years before men. In 1995 the law changed. Meaning that by 2010 all men and women wound need to wait till 65 to retire and claim state pension. Rather then the 60 women previously had.

So yeah while the women may have paid pension payments since the 1950s expecting a earlier retirement then men. And as have some right to object to the decision and law changes.

Inequality is a pretty pathetic claim and trully seems to insult the men treated unequally in this case.

But let's remember. Historically a lot of inequality for women including lower pay. Was far from made up for in that one reverse situation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the information

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Jeremy Corbyn never seems to quite grasp the minutia of a situation. Sure it's not great that it happened but you have to judge how bad the situation was when calculating a response. The government have already said that they accept responsibility and that it was bad, and that there isn't any money, sorry.

It's not like they face some major injustice, they were slightly inconvenienced. It's hardly reformation worthy.

The best outcome for all of this would be that the DWP could marginally improve to be less shit, but realistically I don't have my hopes up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

monica lennon would have been such a better leader than sarwar and i'm sad we'll never get to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Let’s just abandon retirement and have everyone enjoying the beauty and fulfilment of work until they drop. Bah! Pensions are for the workshy layabouts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Corbyn and Starmer have literally nothing in common. Jezza can eat crackers in my bed anytime