This is giving me Punch Out vibes. Little Mac vs King Hippo.
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2024
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Yeah but trump looks way too young, fit, and thin in this.
Fit? Did you see his stomach?
Yeah itβs like 3 sizes too small!
Yes, but let's get Singh instead of Trudeau this oct.
Really no reason to even think about voting for Liberals now that the whole strategic voting thing isn't even plausible thing with the current polling.
Strategic voting is still totally a plausible thing in my riding. Conservatives are consistently at 40% or so voter count, so I either vote for the liberal candidate that has been able to beat the cons by 1%, or I split the vote and hand the cons another riding.
The problem with strategic voting is that it has always been "NDP supporters should vote Liberal to help them win" and never "Liberal voters should vote NDP to help them win".
I'm done supporting the Liberals when all their leadership does is cater to big money corporations and red Tories while begging for the support of the left to stop the "real" conservatives.
What does that change in the grand scheme of things.
In itself is strategic voting only about one election one riding at a time what about the nation and the future beyond 4 years?
Not giving the cons a federal government is the better of the long term strategies. We know the Conservatives want to emulate what's going on south of the border, and since I want to keep funding public services I'm going to swallow my pride and vote accordingly. Yes, an NDP win would be welcome, but I'll settle for a PC loss.
And I fucking hate it. I am in a solid blue riding, so it really doesn't matter who I vote for, I really wanted electoral reform like he promised.
Ehhh, it probably wouldn't actually inspire change, but it would be nice if the Liberals came in a very distant last in every riding they didn't have a chance at winning.
Just say you are a conservative.
Anything but. My comment would apply for the Conservatives too, although I wish they'd come last everywhere. It's just so frustrating seeing the map flip back and forth between red and blue when we have other viable parties.
Once again, I do not like any conservative party, can't overstate that enough, but look at the BC Cons. After decades of obscurity they sucked so much support from the other conservative party (BCUPs/Liberals) they just gave up and all but dissolved themselves. We need something like that for the center/left federally.
You mean the actual centrist party called the Liberal party of Canada?
I think you may be misunderstanding my point, but it would be great if the Liberal party dropped off and the NDP (or something new) completely replaced them as the counter to the Cons. Right now they seem to keep seats because they're not the Cons and I think the leadership confuses that with people liking them for what they do.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you want a centrist party (but not the one we have), and you want it to be more like a left wing party, which we have have several others that haven't reached prominence.
The Green party is more centrist than others with a desire to actually deal with climate change.
Yeah I think I have misunderstood your point because any centrist party is gonna end up sounding like the liberals and anybody as far left as the NDP are not centrist.
No, I was speaking more generally. When I said center/left I meant it in the way the ABC people use it. I don't like the Liberals, but I also do not want the Conservatives to win. Unfortunately that looks like where we're headed. I just hope that if the Cons do win (which once again I do not want but I have just 1 vote), the Liberals lose big and take it as a wakeup call to change or be relegated to the perpetual 3rd place party. None of those other posts were trying to say what party I would like, sorry for the confusion.
Ah, so because you don't like a party you want all of us to suffer to learn a lesson.
Dude, wake the fuck up, you're playing into the con's game.
Clearly I'm not good at articulating my point so I'm going to stop trying. I don't know what I'm saying that would benefit the Conservatives in any way. My riding is NDP with the cons playing catch up and the Greens have a better chance than the Liberals. So maybe we're just coming from different perspectives. Voting for Liberals here is a vote for conservative.
Voting for Liberals here is a vote for conservative.
And here lies the crux of the problem.
Finally we can agree on something.
Can you elaborate how you voting for the Liberals instead of NDP or really anyone else is going to impact this mathematically:
Because
a) The numbers may change between now and the election, b) even if the conservatives win, there's a chance to keep it from being a majority government, c) voting for a candidate in my riding that has zero chance to win will not make a chance, whereas by voting Lib I support a candidate that is more aligned with my views than the conservatives, and d) despite what you seem to be advocating with your rhetoric, I won't give in to defeatism.
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Now add 200lbs and 50 years to orangie.
Just some random political commentary of my own:
Yesterday I heard the someone say that Trump tariffs will make Canada great again by somehow improving government efficiency. The individual was the stereotypical person that thinks any and all types of taxes is killing Canada these days but turns out if another nation taxes us then it's good shit.
Anyways as the polls go Trudeau has the power to implement PR which could hold back Pierre garbage politics but he isn't exactly for helping Canadians either.
I would consider Pierre if he actually shut the hell up about Trudeau, and actually talked about how he's going to help Canada. Looking at his YouTube it's nothing but attacks..this thing cannot be trusted imo...he has nothing he wants to do for Canada, but remove the current leader and that in itself should scare people more then the current lazy as balls government.
I wouldn't vote for Pierre if he said he'd implement voting reform which is the only thing I'm looking for in the next election.
I really don't understand how people can look at Canadian politics in the last half a century and want to bounce between these parties that has taken turns seeing how bad they can be before people vote them out.
Because for some unbelievably stupid reason Bob Rae's single term as Ontario's premier, from 1990 to 1995, burnt Canada on ever having a federal NDP gov't.
I mean the venom with which people discuss his one and only term would make you think that Rae was the absolutely worst thing to ever have happened and we could never, ever EVER take a chance on the NDP again.
In an alternate universe, one can imagine there's a Tory leader who's spoken of the same way and has made them unpalatable.
Harper's mine but that's when I actually could vote so I'm biased. Maybe Diefenbaker? Know some people who romanticise the avro arrow who dislike him for canning it and blame it for brain drain.
In an alternate universe Jack Layton would have been with us long enough to form an NDP government.
Like Musk, a lot of those videos are straight up stolen too. He stole and verbatim reposted a video I uploaded on YouTube once. Was a big reason I deleted that channel, that any apparent sense of irony could just be stripped so easily. (No he did not give credit, not that it was OC, it was a clip from TV I captured myself).
The thing that bothers me the most about him is that the election is seemingly in the bag yet he still has to lean into the USA Republican culture wars. Buddy, going after Trans people and the like isn't going to win you any votes you don't already have, what is the PURPOSE for bringing up this nonsense. Just annoys and disgusts me to the core.
As someone who is the same height/ weight as Trump, cartoons like this are going a long way convincing me to try a lot harder to lose weight
At a minimum, wear clothes that fit you better than he does. All that money and power can't give a man class, nor a sense of style.
What's going on? Why are they fighting and who's/what's PP?
P.P. are the dumb fuck's intials. (Pierre pollieve, opposition leader here in Canada)
Trump and Trudeau are fighting because trump is a dumb cunt.
Edit: added context and I don't care to spell PP's name right
As an American, and a veteran, can I just say how disappointed I am in our "champion"?
As a Canadian, I would also like to say how disappointed we are in your "champion".
Not helping, dude!
Sorry
Fascinating to see that some people still seem to believe that Trudeau would put up a fight for anything!
Idk, he can bob and weave with the best of them. Like that time he dodged the blackface by apologizing for his privilege, and it worked.
Now trudie's kicks will do fire damage.
AND TRUDEAU GOES FOR THE SHAWNINIGAN HANDSHAKE
Even decades later, that phrase never fails to make me laugh.
For anyone who doesn't know it, former Prime Minister John Chretien is from Shawinigan (note spelling). One day, an angry man made it past his security detail and started shouting at the prime minister. Chretien grabbed the man by the throat until his security officers could hustle him away, and ever since then the move has been known as the Shawinigan handshake.
i was hoping more people would get it, but it seems we are the the outliers in age on this platform.
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