You do you, let her do her. I wouldn't make it trough a 100 but maybe like... 30? I'd be exhausted by the end.
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"let her do her"? So you don't think people can be manipulated, taken advantage of, or engage in unhealthy and self-destructive behavior? Clearly she needs help. This is not ok.
She's a grown woman and plenty of people told her not to do it. She made her choice and from the documentary it seems she regrets it but she's the one that decided to do it.
It's fucked up and weird but it was her choice
I agree with everything you said. It is her choice, and it is weird. But criminals do messed up stuff, and we offer to help them more than we offer to help girls like her. She needs an intervention or something. And people need to stop consuming her content. The selfishness behind people who give her business is astounding. They're barely human if you ask me.
And people need to stop consuming her content.
Paradoxically your here PUSHING her content, advertising for her.
The selfishness behind people who give her business is astounding. They're barely human if you ask me.
YOU, literally YOU, are giving her more business and encouraging this behavior.
The whole point of her little adventure was to get attention and make a name for herself... Here you are giving her attention and making her name well known. Your giving her exactly what she wanted, and you are Encouraging others to do the same... We live in a attention economy, you telling everyone to pay attention is exactly their goal.
If you truly don't like this, ignore it, and don't pay attention to it.
I'm not pushing her content. I'm sharing a documentary that shows how tragic her life is, shows her crying and breaking down and shows how nobody is even accounting for her safety, and the maker of the documentary states repeatedly how bad all of this is. I'm not giving her business, I'm actively showing people the dark side of her business and telling everyone that she clearly needs help.
I'm not pushing her content. I'm sharing a documentary that shows how tragic her life is
You may not intend to, but you literally are saying PAY ATTENTION TO THIS, LOOK AT THIS WOMAN, HERE IS HER NAME. SHE HAD BAD SEX. Sex sells, it grabs attention, and your advertising for her. The whole reason people do big outlandish sex stunts is to get exactly the kind of attention you are giving her.
you are LITERALLY giving her business.
If some person sees a post saying how a certain person needs help, and watches a documentary that shows how disgusting and repulsive the whole ordeal is, and they CHOOSE to pay for her content, its not my fault. they are already engaging with that material somewhere else, my stuff is nothing new. So I'm not bringing her business.
It may not be your intention, but you are advertising, adding eyeballs and are directly bringing her business. That's the entire business model over these sex stunts!
The only reason these productions get made, is because they work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Biggest_Gang_Bang
It's a evergreen business model, and your supporting it.
you just keep repeating yourself. this bores me. I am obviously not supporting her business, because as I said before: anyone who - after seeing a documentary detailing the horrors of her life and how harmful it is to her - and decides to engage with her content, well... they're a lost person engaging with that content already so I'm not bringing any new customers. I am, however, raising awareness to people and that's the first step in getting this kind of stuff illegal. and I think that should be a goal.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions.
What conclusion am I jumping to? The psychological effects of promiscuous lifestyles are well documented. Sex workers across all domains of the industry have massively elevated rates of suicide, depression, and various severe disorders including schizophrenia or drug abuse disorders. And in the documentary she herself admits that she is not screening these men and is exposing herself to great risk. Obviously, she is engaging in self-destructive behavior. And obviously, those around her who are enabling this behavior are doing so for pure profit with no concern for her. She clearly needs help.
I bet you someone invented a little latex solution and a bodyguard like job for this
contraceptives and bouncers don't stop the psychological damage.
This isn't rape m8, are you jealous you weren't invited?
you do realize there is psychological damage from the stunts she is pulling, right? Like, getting railed by endless strangers does not leave you unscathed. Did you watch the documentary? She literally breaks down in tears. She is not happy. She is being taken advantage of. This is not healthy. The brain is not intended to endure that kind of psychological trauma, even if its self-induced.
If she chooses to do it, who cares. As long as she wasn't forced or pressured into it I really don't care, it's 100% a you problem.
After all, maybe all those problems you prattled off are because people like you demonize these people so much. Maybe if they were accepted more they wouldn't have those horrible rates. Ever think about that? That posts like this directly cause those rates to go up?
"iF sHe ChOoSeS tO dO iT wHo CaReS"
"If my friend decides to start slitting her wrists who cares? as long as nobody forces her to do it" "If my friend decides to join a cult and drink some koolaid who cares? as long as they aren't forced" "If my friend decides to start dating a known rapist who cares, as long as nobody is forcing her to do it"
You're a myopic p.o.s with the intellectual capacity of a worm.
The reality is, consent does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health. And people who try to pretend that personal choice is the only thing that matters are retards who understand nothing of the complexities of human motivation or the damage a person can do to societal norms and themselves on a "voluntary basis". Get a grip.
Her body, your choice... Eh?
I'm not saying it isn't her choice, I'm saying she obviously needs help. That even if its her choice, that doesn't mean she doesn't need help. If you saw someone engaging in self-destructive behavior, you would still want to help them right? A crack addict technically "chooses" to do drugs, that doesn't mean you should just leave them to themselves.
I leave drug addicts alone. I see them all the time, give them room, they are adults and made their choice.
obviously, at a granular level, there's nothing you can do outside of refuse to give them money. the same applies to porn stars etc. But from a top-down level, like, a policy level, these people need help.
So it comes back to body autonomy. People can't use their bodies to do things you don't like... thats a hard rule to enforce... how far do you go? Can't marry someone you don't like? Can't have sex with people you don't like? Only sex for making babies? No tattoos?
And where ever you draw the line, someone else will want to draw the line someplace else.
Reinforcing age old historical norms is a great place to start. Like, I dunno, making sex work illegal. making non-committal sex taboo again. there are a lot of ways to do this.
The fact that you equate sex work with slitting wrists says a lot more about you than anything else, and shows you aren't willing to talk in good faith, your mind is made up.
God forbid it's something the want to do and something they enjoy doing. It's not hard drugs, they aren't addicted to it. It doesn't harm them, if it does harm them then I'm all for helping them get out. If they chose it, it doesn't harm them, it doesn't harm you, then who cares. But you obviously equate sex work to harming yourself so I'd say you're already completely one-minded about this.
you don't know much about neuroscience, or psychology, do you? You don't know much about neuroplasticity and morphology and sexual neurochemistry, do you?... you are naive. The act of sex is a neurochemical experience, that has evolved to directly change neurochemistry, and if pushed beyond certain bounds, the powerful cocktails of neurotransmitters released during the act of intimacy have damaging effects in the way they change cognition. There are literal brains scans of prostitutes and sex workers over time that show how the brain changes in ONLY NEGATIVE WAYS.
Bro literally watch the documentary. She breaks down in tears, and says she feels like she's "only good for one thing". You don't understand anything. "CoNsEnT" does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health.
You think it "doesn't harm them" but it OBVIOUSLY DOES. Watch the documentary you fucking moron. Literally, just question your assumption for HALF A SECOND and look up some studies and you'll find that this behavior IS HARMFUL. And not just to her, but to society as a whole. So of course it impacts me! Jeez, you have the intelligence of a rock.
But people like you want your porn, you want to be able to do whatever you want and ignore the consequences, so you moralize consent and pretend you're enlightened and open-minded and ignore all the warning signs because you yourself are along for the ride. You disgust me.
It's working because your talking about her.
wut?
It's working as an advertisement for her business and you're pulling eyeballs to it. If this really bothers you, you should've just.. ignored it.
Honestly, i clicked the video and watched most of it only because of this post. So yeah, it was absolutely an advertisement.
Stop wasting your time. You are trying to argue with a troll.
Ye but I enjoy it, I'll block m when I get bored
Fair point.
How is me pointing out how disgusting she is, and linking a documentary that exposes the emotional and psychological toll her behavior is having on her and her family, "advertisement" for her business? People who think like you (i.e., "if it bothers you ignore it") are the reason child trafficking and pornography and drugs are a thing. Ignoring problems LETS THEM GROW. Bringing attention to their negative effects helps combat them. Common sense.
Gods damn, you're being a giant dick about this.
said the person who couldn't refute my logic because I'm right.
You didn't use logic.
You're just an asshole
more name calling. I'm waiting for you to use actual logic lol. seems you don't have any.
Because horny people don't care about your documentary
Obviously plenty of them do. Plenty of men hate porn and don't watch it, and plenty more men are trying to quit, and still plenty more can have their mind changed by having awareness raised. It's not advertising for her product, its spreading awareness to help stop it.
Maybe you should start with yourself :p
start with myself? like, start spreading awareness? bro, I literally shared the link to a video. this whole post is about spreading awareness. room temp iq lmfao
No, to quit obsessing over it
Quit obsessing over a woman being exploited and engaging in self-destructive behavior and being taken advantage of by literally hundreds of men in person and countless men online? Of course I'm going to obsess, this is a tragedy! People have been upset over much less. You're all psychopaths if you aren't obsessing over ending this kind of perversion. In fact, you probably want me to stop obsessing because you're a paying customer for this kind of industry.