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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When lemmy.ml answer detected:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I like to get them going. I respond with "that's BS" or "prove it" and they give me a essay

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (31 children)

I don’t have an issue with lemmy.ml users but that’s because I don’t use sweeping generalizations. I’ve had perfectly acceptable conversations with people across all kinds of instances.

I’m not a tankie but am a fan of parts of communism and I like socialism.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I like socialism too. But I hate bootlicking authoritarian simps who pretend like they know shit about socialism because they read that one Lenin essay on Marxist.org

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The problem is that folks see these things implemented in the past and say “let’s just do that.” Why can’t we take the good parts and think beyond the rest? These are systems that just won’t work with current population growth and resources. We can always do far and away better than capitalism, but I’ve talked to a handful of working class people that lived under communism for years and they have nothing good to say about it. Not a single positive thing. It’s easy to dream about these things and wax poetic when you don’t experience them firsthand.

Any time a path opens to seize power, humans fill that void regardless of what they believe in. Now suddenly we’ve traded authoritarian 1 for authoritarian 2. It makes no sense to me and I read both Lenin and Marx.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (17 children)

Non-tankies on .ML getting upset at this:

You might not be an idiot, but you're wearing a T-shirt that says "I AM AN IDIOT" in bold letters across your chest. Maybe change your shirt. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

Looks at username

Wait a minute...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

All tankie users are in .ml, but not all .ml users are tankies.

You should always judge the merit of the comment, not whether or not the person is from .ml. If you see a comment that is pro-CCP or pro-Kremlin from an .ml user, then the point of the meme is valid. But a well-thought, benign, good-faith or wholesome comment from an .ml user should not be dismissed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not everyone in a nazi bar is a nazi. Let's hear them out and give them the benefit of the doubt even though they could go to literally any bar, but keep going to the nazi bar

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

When choosing an instance, it is not necessarily overtly advertised as such. It's just one of the largest instances, so many "regular" people are obviously going to pick it. New users are not going to be intimately familiar with the elaborate politics of federated Lemmy servers upon first arrival. It would be a bit bizarre to expect them to be.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Developer: makes platform

End User: "Fuck you."

Tale as old as time.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Does "be civil" include constantly shitting on huge groups of users just because of the instance they created their account on? There's a very simple solution for this if you truly believe an entire instance is worthless and it's called the blocking function, but I suppose that'd stop the joy you get out of loudly complaining about that instance repeatedly.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

worth .003$ vs a hexbear user

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Like comparing the Ruble to the North Korean Won LMAO

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

As a resident of a politically indifferent instance that is on good terms with everyone, I can say one thing:

Fuck absolutely everyone who turns Lemmy into yet another Internet battlefield.

Leave .ml alone. Leave Hexbear alone. Even yes - leave Lemmygrad alone. People there will not change their opinion when facing hatred, and newbies coming there doesn't change the big picture, as Lemmy is federated and they can figure stuff out for themselves.

Trying to silence entire instances, especially the biggest ones, is absolutely not a welcoming picture to whoever's coming here, and being cut out and filtered for happening to choose the "wrong" instance is the worst possible greeting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have no problems with tankies expressing there opinions. The problem is when someone points out they are wrong they get mad and if the mods are tankie they ban you. If not they just get mad and start name calling.

In a nutshell I think they should be allowed as long as they follow the rules. Same for everyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am .NL not .ML please don't hate on me dyslexic lemmys

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (24 children)
  1. Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml
  2. Why don't you just block the instance

Edit: thank you for real responses, got so used to be people getting pissed for no reason on social media that I was genuinely surprised to check Lemmy and see a bunch of genuine answers with no butthurt to be seen

[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

The admins and mods cultivate a community of genocide denial and authoritarian apologism, which many users on the instance then buy into.

Why don’t you just block the instance

Instance blocking only blocks communities, not users, who still show up whenever there's a Chinese genocide to deny or a Russian atrocity to "WHATABOUT", or a non-Western aligned dictator to "BOTHSIDES".

My current favorite is Taliban-simping.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

When I accidentally blocked an instance, any comment from a user on that instance would be replaced by a message like "you have blocked this instance and so will not see this comment." I don't know if that's a feature of my client, Connect, or of lemmy itself.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism, it's maintained by the lemmy devs so it has lots of "normal" users too. Some people associate lemmy.ml with "tankie" viewpoints.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lemmy devs are tankies, especially the main maintainer

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I choose not to block the instance because there is a very small group on there that have non-political discussions that I enjoy, same with hexbear.

I also don't like creating an echo chamber where all I hear is what I want to hear. Hearing from the other side, as disgusting as their viewpoints can be, at least let's me know how they think.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

Extending an invitation to peruse [email protected] for some context of mod behavior

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yeah. Good old fashioned social media toxicity.

Mixed with some old good internal left fighting.

The taste of success. Surely.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

internal left fighting.

I'm talking to people on Lemmy.ml who say things like "Reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias", "Russia was right to invade Ukraine, it needs to be denazified", "Uighur genocide is made up", etc, etc etc, I wouldn't call that "internal left fighting"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I don't care about all the politics and shit regarding instances, i just want to use lemmy :(

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Even though I came from reddit, I approach comments on their own merits and I don't downvote just for disagreeing with someone.

We are not the same.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i joined .ml as it was the first instance i come across when trying lemmy out. Iv heard the admins are tankies but to be honest i dont actually know what a tankie is. i just use lemmy to look at memes and follow foss communities. i try to block all political stuff as i want to enjoy my exprience and stay ignorant to the politics here.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why tho? I'm having trouble figuring out the differences in instances

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

The lemmy.ml instance is known to have admins, mods and users that spread the promotion, praise and propaganda of dictatorships and other authoritarian governments, bigotry, racism and transphobia. Even when there are hard facts against them.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's a bit harsh if you ask me. Back in 2021 there wasn't many Lemmy servers for register.

You can scroll through my 1.400 comments and don't find a tankie-like comment.

Btw. Lemmy.ml is the dev server, every new update and feature starts here.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

love me a classic .ml worthless posting, it's my favorite.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

hmm, I wonder why .ml dislikes .world so much. It couldn't possibly have to do with us shitting on them so much.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As a user of neither, I've only been banned from one of them for making fun of government leaders

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

I was on ml and it was pretty chill for a non-tankie. Until a mod powertripped and ban me for insulting an homophobe. Some people like me join the instance without knowing of all this tankie thing. IMO, hexbear is far more toxic.

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