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[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

There was so much to campus life that just felt natural and just ridiculously, offensively, convenient.

  • Practically everyone is roughly the same age as you, and that group is thousands strong (depends on where you go).
  • Just drop in on dorm rooms and say 'hi' to friends, whenever.
  • Dining is usually very close by.
  • Lots of entertainment options, most days of the week.
  • Included access to showers and fitness facilities (varies).
  • Free bus travel with student ID (varies).
  • Student ID discounts at some retail (varies).

The fact that we refuse to build communities outside of school with these features, just boggles the mind.


I'll add that this is practically impossible to replicate in adult life until you get into a "retirement community". And like college, those are ridiculously expensive too. If you're an undergrad and barely old enough to drink: I urge you to please live these days to the fullest. It's tragic but you really won't get another moment like this again.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Dating too. You'll never have a group of so many single people the same age as you again, and college selects for people with similar life experiences and goals.

If there was one piece of advice I could give to young adults in school, it would be to not be afraid to start thinking long-term. There are lots of adults who graduate and get stuck in the work/home/sleep cycle for years, then wish they had prioritized this before it got more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. I met my SO at college, and we got married before finishing school. It was so much better having a reliable roommate who was up for... breaks... to get through the tough parts of the school year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ok but also as an adult, don’t let yourself get into that cycle. Find reasons to get out of the house and meet new people. Even when you’re married. I’ve seen so many adults let themselves become isolated because it’s easy, but ensuring you have hobbies that get you out of the house and talking to people is so valuable

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'll add that this is practically impossible to replicate in adult life until you get into a "retirement community".

Small disagreement (that shows how possible it is if effort was made to make it happen): I'm in the military, live in military housing (sizes of which are largely based on family size, up to a certain point... 3 bedroom for my wife, 2 kids and me, but 4 bedroom for the families with 6 goddamn kids omigod I can't imagine), walk to work and the galley (cafeteria-type place for meals, including for dependents), am surrounded by families with similar lifestyles and kids, have two workout spaces on base (as well as access to off-base gyms and pool through my work), and am a short walk to downtown with plenty of entertainment (and most decent sized military bases have similar situations on base itself).

So it's possible, you just have to sign your body and will away. Or, like, convince a developer to make a civilian equivalent you can just buy into, like an uber-HOA.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The military is literally a socialist meritocracy and for some reason people insist we can't have socialism in the US

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Socialism is the workers owning the means of production.

Professional national armies are the government doing things, how collectivist that is depends on the government.

Even the Soviet Red Army while it was fighting Nazis wasn't "socialist" except in the sense that it was, in theory, defending the rights of the workers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Outside of the age thing, those points all still ring true for many cities that did not buy into the whole carbrain thing.

Under the guise of the "freedom" cars being, they have taken away community, third places, affordable housing and infrastructure, and my more things just for the sake of making everywhere accessible via car.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The guy from WeWork (Adam something) tried to do that and was basically laughed off the stage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe he should have tried doing it good, then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ideas like these take a lot of money, and he didn't have any of his own at the time. He was a student who was looking for funding for his ideas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

There is always a kernel of truth.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My favorite place to nap was in the Art building. Not only was it a huge open space, literally no one would bother you. Moreover, there was always someone practicing an instrument or working on some form of music. One time before their exam I heard a girl warming up her voice and hoooooly shit there was no way she got anywhere below a 100% or however they grade. She was so good I nearly decided to go find her and express my gratitude for an amazing performance. haha

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All of the art buildings have a certain smell too. It feels comforting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

yeah, arts can be smelly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

There is a lot of weed, but that's usually in the alley or kind of hidden. I'm not sure if it's the oil paint or the turpentine or what. Good guess though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Say, is this what's like in the US? I mean, I hear of campuses. What are those? Are colleges like small cities and people just be living in there? Maybe it's a US thing, or maybe it's just my experience, idk

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Many campuses are like small, sprawling towns, with various buildings dedicated to different departments, dormitories, or common areas like libraries/cafes/etc. It's like a self-contained ecosystem where you can just live there as a student and have everything you need.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. Though there are colleges that are just random buildings and not on a specific piece of land.

Many with land are "land grant institutions" which were created about 100 years ago.

The only people that live on campus are usually the president and many students.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It depends on the university, but somewhat. Yeah. It's a bunch of people with similar requirements all doing the same thing, and a lot of places to eat and do things. They're pretty cool from my experience. It's like a small town if everyone in the town was around the same age with similar struggles. You can trust most people and just hang out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You can trust most people

Debatable. Ask a woman about it for the full story.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True. I meant that no one is going to mug you or take your things. Yeah, rape isn't uncommon when people get into more private settings. Being on campus during the day is pretty safe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Rape isn't the only way to betray someone's trust.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair quite a lot of men dont trust men either.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, my friends and I never raped or sexually harassed anyone in college. In fact, we looked out for everyone in our group (regardless of gender) whenever we went out drinking.

Now there was that time somebody reached behind and started rubbing my penis in line at the keg.. But the rubee was female... So, take that data point for what it's worth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

1: Yes yes "not all men," no shit, what's next, White Lives Matter?

2: You know what you did. What makes you so sure you know everything your friends did?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. But that was op's point, which i was supporting. Perhaps read the thread again.

  2. You can say that about anything. "How do you know your neighborhood is a nice place to live?!? What if your neighbor is a secret serial killer?!".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, now you get it! Your friends could be rapists, and, statistically speaking, if you have more than three it begins to approach certainty!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

Accusations without evidence.... That's a great way to make a point that is taken seriously.

/s in case you missed it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yup. I lived in on-campus housing my first year, and then I moved to off-campus housing to save some cash, but it was still walking distance to the campus (like 2 blocks). 90% of my classes were in the same chunk of land, with each building being dedicated to some specific part of the university (e.g. the math building, humanities building, music building, etc). There were a couple of buildings separate from that chunk of land, but they were also within a few blocks from the main campus.

You can get by w/o a car and can do all the shopping you need right on campus (ours had a small grocery store), and there were even fast food restaurants inside the student center building (or you can go to the cafeteria, but that was at the edge of campus), so you could eat lunch right there w/o having to return to your apartment. Some days I would go to campus at 8AM and get home at 10PM when most buildings closed for the day. Our library was right in the middle of campus, so I'd frequently go there to study between classes, because I always seemed to have an hour here or there in my schedule.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It really do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sadly, this is until security checks your ID, and the last University I went to had Hostile Architecture anywhere and everywhere the administration(or some student project... 🤮) could come up with the slightest(or no) excuse, indoors or out.