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I hope the Australian public is better than to fall for this. Though I fear we collectively are no better than the USA... somehow Abbot and Morrison were both elected after all.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think it's important to remember how/why our most recent leaders (before Albo) were elected.

Abbott was only (just) elected because the voters got the shits with the Labor Party's Rudd-Gillard-Rudd circle jerk before - surprise, surprise - the Libs started also started doing their own Brutus-to-Caesar act.

That fuckwittery ended up giving us Morrison's first term (winning the multiple spill-wank that ultimately ousted Turnbull), whose actual elected second term was when he ran against Bill Shorten. Arguably, any train station meth-head could have beaten Shorten just by having - y'know - a policy. Man was invisible.

My point is, up until we got Rudd, most of our PMs played the long game, regardless of what it meant for their own careers. For example, Howard managed to get both sides to vote in favour of gun reform after Port Arthur, even though that meant some senators were committing political suicide by supporting it. That was in '96, at the very beginning of Howard's near-12 year stint in the top job. Proof that we all used to value long-term vision over short-term politics.

We haven't had a single leader (either in office or opposition) with the same long-term vision ever since. It's all about the next election, and the fastest way to win it is to appeal to the populist base. Which brings us to the current head-kicking potato the Libs have in charge.

I definitely agree regarding your fears on the majority's views on Trumpist bullshit. Something about wankers like Dutton speaking inside thoughts out loud is helping people feel they have license to do the same. I really do hope we're better than that here...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If mainstream acceptance of progressive ideas collapses, Dutton will sweep in in a landslide not seen since Howard. And anecdotally it looks like it’s happening: the broad popular rejection of the Aboriginal recognition referendum suggests that there’s a mood of having had a gutful of progressive ideas. Which may be an illusion caused by Murdoch/Rinehart’s command of the media, but Albo having conceded on the issue and playing small-target I-can’t-believe-it’s-not-LNP politics isn’t helping.

Another thing to watch for: Greens support collapsing outside of the core, with them losing seats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Advance has already said they will be targeting the Greens this election, and given both parties opposed the "truth in political advertising" bill you can bet it's going to be a shitshow of misinfo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

broad popular rejection of the Aboriginal recognition referendum suggests that there’s a mood of having had a gutful of progressive ideas.

I wouldn't use that as an indicator. From the outside it's progression and it's certainly textbook but we are fucking weird about indigenous rights. We'd vote in a puce-haired enby and pat ourselves on the back for being enlightened before even considering an Aboriginal PM

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"the Australian public" is ~~23~~ 27 million people from different backgrounds, in different environments, facing different stresses.

There is no cohesive identity, just human drives. We are animals, often very gentle and nice animals, but we are animals. We carry the heritage of our ancestors. Fear and doubt, fear of the other, selfishness these are all drives we have and they are easy to play into. Of course it will work, trump isn't a wizard, the rise of fascism is a systematic problem.

The question is will someone else use a more effective political strategy? Neoliberal politics largely hasn't been able to because it is neoliberal ideologies which have lead to this world where people are noticing life get harder each year and the upper rungs of society become increasingly unattainable.

"be happy with what you have peasant, at least we won't do purges" is just... deeply uninspiring.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

With worldwide inflation post COVID it's been a shitty time for incumbent governments world wide. There's been a change of power in every single western election this year.

And the simple question the opposition can ask is: are you better off today than 4 years ago?

People eat that shit up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

are you better off today than 4 years ago?

Reagan also used that against Carter way back. Meaningless, yet effective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Are people in any place in the world better off today than they were four years ago?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

And Howard, multiple times.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Can Dutton waffle incoherently for long enough to slot those slogans in without people noticing or understanding them? I'm sceptical. He might be an evil potato monster hell bent on setting up a potato based junta with him as the potato bake supreme, but I don't think his brain has enough mash to achieve a true trumpian waffle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The dude is never gonna be PM.. he couldn't pull it off last election as he is so unlikable, and has also the teals to battle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

We thought the same of Trump....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I want to agree with you, but we said exactly the same thing about Tony Abbott in 2012.