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Federal judge tosses out ChatGPT plagiarism case from independent digital news outlets (www.courthousenews.com)
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OpenAI on Thursday won the dismissal of a federal copyright suit brought by digital news websites Raw Story and AlterNet, with a New York judge finding the outlets failed to identify an appropriate injury from the claimed copyright infringement.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ever seen Superman III where Richard Pryor's character realizes there's rounding in the numbers of his company's payroll, taxes, etc, so he writes a program to skim those partial cents into his account and he ends up shocked at the amount? And he knew it was illegal and everyone who learned of it knew it was illegal?

Companies profiting off AI trained on stolen material feels like that, but if the cops who discovered Pryor's crime were to say "eh, partial cents aren't a real thing anyway. No harm, no foul" and let Pryor keep skimming.

[–] riskable 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Except there's nothing illegal about scraping all the content from websites (including news sites) and putting it into your own personal database. That is--after all--how search engines work.

It's only illegal if you then distribute said copyrighted material without the copyright owner's permission. Because that's what copyright is all about: Distribution.

The news sites distributing the content in this case freely gave it to OpenAI's crawlers. It's not like they broke into these organizations in order to copy their databases of news articles.

For the news sites to have a case they need to demonstrate that OpenAI is creating a "derivative work" using their copyrighted material. However, that's going to be a tough sell to judges and/or juries since the way LLMs work is not so different from how humans do: They take in information and then produce similar information (by predicting the next word/symbol, given a series of tokens/a prompt).

If you read all of Stephen King's books, for example, you might be better at writing horror stories. You may even start writing in a similar style! That doesn't mean you're violating his copyright by producing similar stories.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They will need to show plagiarism in the results returned by AI. I bet that won’t be too difficult.

[–] riskable 10 points 2 weeks ago

It will be difficult because the AI only returns short results (relatively speaking). A sentence or two does not make for copyright infringement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. These things have been carefully crafted to dodge these legal issues. It will not be easy to pin them down.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm shocked. /S