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Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Surely the tankies will take notice of fhis and... Ha, no. They still say Kamala supports genocide despite her being the only candidate pushing for peace.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But let's shit on Harris anyway lol. Dumb fucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

It was always astro turfers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

So that's illegal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

But protest voting against Harris is the answer, don't you see? It's so obvious. Sure, more Palestinians will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make, so I can be an edgy social-media radical! Do you even means of production, bro?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't the pagers a war crime? Hiding explosives inside regular objects?

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 hours ago (27 children)

Don’t forget to vote third party to teach the Democrats a lesson about genocide….

Seriously the American Gaza protests are 100% about disenfranchising Democrats. They absolutely never go after Republicans. Ever. Ask them about this and they get suuuuper defensive and angry.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Trump will pull out some Marshmallows and roast them in the fires of their Burnt out towns. Vote against him for any kind of future.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 hours ago

I'm still undecided.

Can I wait until I'm in a camp to cast my vote for the Hitler fan?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In order to stop the genocide we need to vote in the people who will destroy the country and commit even more genocide, in the hopes the wreckage of the country can be salvaged into something better. I'm comfortable making this choice, because the extra genocide will only be happening to other people, not to people like me who look just like them over here in the states.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I've actually heard on two occasions now from the 'don't vote for Kamala' people that more genocide does not make things worse because you can't get worse than what is happening now.

Which- yes you absolutely can.

(Then again, I saw someone a few days ago say that Israel is worse than the Nazis by the reasoning that the Nazis were orderly about their genocide.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They don't usually write it so literally, that's rare. They usually just pretend than any amount of evil is equally evil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It was rare. They're getting more brazen because they are realizing the "vote third party but it doesn't matter which candidate to teach them a lesson" concept isn't especially compelling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The absolutely trash argument I've gotten is usually... "Less genocide is still genocide." and then them advocating for taking an action that's likely to cause more genocide.

This is one topic where people taking a "principled stand" are just fucking idiots.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Yep. I've seen that one too. "Less genocide is still genocide." Which implies that an additional two genocides of brown and queer people don't deserve to be counted.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

2 points:

  1. More blatant violation of the (edit: corrected) Logan Act

  2. The Israeli attack on Iran should very neatly effect the election I'd think :(

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think you mean a violation of the Logan Act. The Hatch Act prohibits federal employees, except POTUS and VPOTUS, from engaging in some forms of political activities. The Logan Act criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen.

There's even a section in the Logan Act wikipedia page about trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, my bad, confused the two.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (10 children)

Additionally, and most interestingly:

A pro-Trump super PAC called Future Coalition PAC has been placing contradictory ads targeting Arab voters in Michigan and Jewish voters in Pennsylvania. The group’s digital ads in Michigan portray Harris as taking Israel’s side against pro-Palestinian protesters. In Pennsylvania, on the other hand, the group’s ads question her support for Israel and accuse her of “pandering to Palestine.”

Sorry not sorry, but the left got played like a fiddle by not understanding the more immediate existential threat to their survival, and now I'm afraid we'll all suffer for it. Bibi put Biden in what he knew was an unwinnable situation where he had to choose between appealing to 3% of Michigan voters (Arab-Americans) and appealing to 3% of Pennsylvania voters (Jewish Americans), and now the left flank is turning toward Trump over it and he might win both states:

“Because the situation has escalated in recent weeks, I think a lot people say what’s the difference?” said Warren David, a third-generation Arab American who is president of Arab America, a digital media platform. “ I am shocked at how many people say they are voting for Trump, when we were talking to people on the streets in bakeries and in different places. Trump is really capitalizing on this.” David said he was approached by a Trump surrogate to appear at his conference in Michigan this weekend and said no. Others — including leaders from the “uncommitted” movement who urged votes against Biden in the Democratic primary race — are appearing, he said.

Heaven help us all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

But I was assured that minority demographics would never vote against their own interests, no matter how hard the single-issue drum was beaten???

Don't worry - the Terminally Online Leftists will change their tune from "It won't change the election" to "If Palestine gets genocided by Israel, it's only fair minorities in the US are genocided too".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

If you head on over to Hexbear they have at least one person who will happily tell you any amount of collateral damage to minority groups is acceptable as long as Donald executes white liberals en masse. Is that close enough?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Of course Bibi supports him. They're two sides of the same coin.

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