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Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Additionally, and most interestingly:

A pro-Trump super PAC called Future Coalition PAC has been placing contradictory ads targeting Arab voters in Michigan and Jewish voters in Pennsylvania. The group’s digital ads in Michigan portray Harris as taking Israel’s side against pro-Palestinian protesters. In Pennsylvania, on the other hand, the group’s ads question her support for Israel and accuse her of “pandering to Palestine.”

Sorry not sorry, but the left got played like a fiddle by not understanding the more immediate existential threat to their survival, and now I'm afraid we'll all suffer for it. Bibi put Biden in what he knew was an unwinnable situation where he had to choose between appealing to 3% of Michigan voters (Arab-Americans) and appealing to 3% of Pennsylvania voters (Jewish Americans), and now the left flank is turning toward Trump over it and he might win both states:

“Because the situation has escalated in recent weeks, I think a lot people say what’s the difference?” said Warren David, a third-generation Arab American who is president of Arab America, a digital media platform. “ I am shocked at how many people say they are voting for Trump, when we were talking to people on the streets in bakeries and in different places. Trump is really capitalizing on this.” David said he was approached by a Trump surrogate to appear at his conference in Michigan this weekend and said no. Others — including leaders from the “uncommitted” movement who urged votes against Biden in the Democratic primary race — are appearing, he said.

Heaven help us all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

But I was assured that minority demographics would never vote against their own interests, no matter how hard the single-issue drum was beaten???

Don't worry - the Terminally Online Leftists will change their tune from "It won't change the election" to "If Palestine gets genocided by Israel, it's only fair minorities in the US are genocided too".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

If you head on over to Hexbear they have at least one person who will happily tell you any amount of collateral damage to minority groups is acceptable as long as Donald executes white liberals en masse. Is that close enough?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

I'm honestly surprised I haven't heard that yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not too late for Harris to come out with a strong message of change in foreign policy towards Israel, if elected. All she has to do is promise that she'll make sure international and US law is respected, and to contrast that with what Trump has told Bibi.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Yep, and risk losing Pennsylvania which is a statistical tie. Brilliant tactical move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It absolutely would be a brilliant tactical move to take a stance against Netanyahu in a serious manner. There are a lot of liberal voters who won't participate in this election because they feel unrepresented.

Are these liberal voters correct to sit out the election? No they're fucking idiots... but tempting them to vote would bring a lot more people to the voting booth than trying to capture more moderates.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Don't tell me. Tell the Jews who were interviewed for those articles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you sure that the Jews there who support the continuation of the war aren't already voting Trump? Cause if they are she might not lose it.

In all likelihood you're probably right, but it all depends what the voting intentions are in and what proportion of the voters they comprise in each state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Okay so they get to pressure Kamala with their votes but the Pro-Palestenian people can't? Pretty hypocritical.