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Malicious Compliance

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The policy is you can only work from home when it benefits the company, not you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm learning that the hard way. Started working for this company 2 hours from home,because I could WFH 3 days a week. Now they want me to come in 4 days a week. So I'm looking for a new job now. Which is a shame, because I do like the job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remote rocket ship and hiring dot cafe

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What does your contract say? With this back to work bullshit I made sure my contract explicitly said I was remote.

Doesn't mean they won't change their mind but maybe I'll get severance instead of fired for cause of they have a back to the office push.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (18 children)

most hires don't get contracts

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good tip, I'll double check that

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (14 children)

As a middle manager in a corporate hellscape, one of my few joys in life is setting logic traps for HR and making them choose between admitting company policy is bullshit or directly instructing me to violate labor laws.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Doing the Lord’s work there, Sonny!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A previous job of mine wanted people in my team to volunteer for being on call overnight for a week at a time.

No-one did, so they forced us. I emailed all managers involved including HR I said that I would like to opt-out for various reasons like family, mental and physical health, and also that the pay was in no way adequate for what they wanted. Again they pushed, so I replied with I'll do it but would be unavailable most afternoons and evenings with my kids and things they have on. That I also won't be able to answer after going to sleep because I take my mental health very seriously and need quality sleep to function.

So the first night I slept peacefully as I normally do as I have my phone set to go to DND automatically. I got called in because I didn't answer a call that came in last night, I asked when it was, about midnight, and said well that's because I was asleep.

Go to the next 2 mangers up, say the same thing and they say that I need to answer. I explain the email stating that I would be unable to answer calls at many times including when asleep and how no-one replied with that being a problem. One of the managers was like, wait up, you flagged this; yup; can you send me the email chain; yup. Got removed and told I wouldn't need to worry about doing it anymore.

It found a new job shortly after that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

"No, not like that!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Incoming employment terms ammendment:

You can work from home but only to answer us when we contact you. You must answer our contact and must report to the location if requested. If you can do something cheaper (for us the company) and faster (for us the company) then that is the only time you may perform a work duty at home.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's EU law that if you have to be standby to pick up the phone and go on location at a moment's notice, those are working hours and need to be paid in full. Most companies are pretty careful to not put it anywhere in the contracts or house rules that you have to be on stand-by, but just verbally keep pushing for it. If they keep pushing, push back with asking for the written rules.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

You must answer our contact

"I cannot answer the company contact after hours because for every call I get after hours that isn't a company contact, following an order from work to monitor those on the chance of a company contact itself represents 'working from home' which the company forbids. I cannot violate the previously stated company policy."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

*ammmendment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

And....? How did the story turn out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Our boss was freaking out over people sometimes doing some private calls during work hours and at a certain point absolutely forbade it. So yeah, people would just end the call at 17:00 sharp and switch off the work phone. It took one week before that rule was rescinded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (13 children)

This reminds me of a work-to-rule or a "White Strike." It turns out that every company, even those that supposedly operate off of "unskilled" labor, utterly rely on employees making a ton of judgment calls and often working outside their job description. When employees start working to the letter of their job description, the whole operation quickly grinds to a halt.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Teamwork makes the dream work.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Should be the standard anyway. Reading email and texts from work, or responding to calls, is work. Unless your contact specifies on-call hours, you should ignore your boss outside of working hours. If they really want you to respond they can pay you overtime.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I always refused to put work apps on my personal phone because they would make you agree to some bullshit where they could remote access your phone or potentially wipe it. So I would refuse and say they needed to provide a company phone for me if it was that important. Most companies are either ok with this or provide a phone, except for one company. This was a software company, and literally everything else about this company was a unicorn of a job. But for some reason they wanted me to have slack on my phone and also wouldn't give me a company phone. So I dug up an old phone, reset it to factory settings, and added slack to that so I could say I did it. Then I put the phone away and they never asked about it again. So I really don't know what the point of that was 🤷

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's less cognitively taxing for me if you just comply with whatever I've decided

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Keep telling the DBAs that my company outsourced a big chunk of their tech stack to that its against company policy to work all the way on the other side of the planet, but they refuse to show up to the office.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Man we had someone in the army do this. Army doctrine is either outdated or very accessible to the poor, I don't fuckin know, but you aren't required to have a phone.

So this one weird junior Joe just decided he didn't need a phone. Got rid of it, and as a result never got the information he needed on army shit. I loved him for it, and by the law he was in the right. Can't tell him to get a phone.

Unfortunately I was his team lead, and every time my chain of command decided to put out bullshit last minute information over text I had to tell them to suck it and pvt NoPhone wouldn't be at their surprise formation.

Sometimes for important stuff I would have to drive to the barracks and knock on homies door to let him know there's surprise inspections or piss tests and shit.

The workplace should operate entirely without external communication. It worked since the dawn of man, and it should continue to work until the end of man if we want any semblance of work-life balance.

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