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Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.

The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There's no mystique, no 'wickedness'. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.

The edit isn't perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.

What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn't show her full face. And she can't let that go.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago

Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn't match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she's mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn't hide her face and now she's furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she's looking straight at the camera.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

And I'm 90% sure that originally they wanted to make it matches the original styling but she fought to keep her face fully visible. So that's why she's so irked that there's a fan who made that edit and proved the people who suggested that in the first place right.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 weeks ago

Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

Congratulations I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago

Stolen from reddit

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bit of an overreaction if you ask me

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Theatre kids gonna theatre

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nerve status: Struck

As we all know snapping at the fans, especially over matters of source material accuracy, always works out well for everyone involved in the making of the adaptation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah. Metallica sued their fans 20 years ago and I still won’t listen to them on purpose and shit talk them when I hear them.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

because, without words we communicate with our eyes

IDK, the original and the edit both communicate way more mystique and mischievousness than the one with her eyes visible

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

You know, like how the wicked witch would

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh. This is why you need a PR team.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah maybe not calling out your fans on making things that build excitement for your upcoming project is the best course of action as an actor. It's like Daisy Ridley calling out Star Wars fans for having the wrong body shape in cosplay or something else equally stupid. They're fans. They're having fun. You don't get to tell your fans how they're supposed to enjoy your work.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

What an utterly ridiculous and inconsequential thing to get upset about. Someone should tell her to re-read what she just wrote and think about how stupid it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In matters of taste, the customer is always right.

Nobody but the audience gets to decide what the audience wants. Not writers, not actors, not directors, not graphic designers. If you can give the audience something they didn't know that they wanted until they got it, so much the better for you. But if the audience just plain wants something else, then there's no amount of cajoling or negotiation that will make them feel otherwise.

That said, I have no idea what the collective response is to either of these posters, and this does feel a bit like a tempest in a teapot.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

Fans did a service on that one

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Totally proportionate reaction.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I read the text before the post title and thought it was some witchymemes joke rant about people stereotyping witches which would have been kinda funny. A shame that she's serious.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

In the original Broadway poster and the fan edit, it looks like they're up to something--there's some mischievousness at play, some wickedness.

I don't really know what the full-face one is supposed to convey.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Yea lady, that's totally just as bad as people asking if your ***** is green.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

One thing I've noticed over time is that people in Hollywood are pretty normal.

/s

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The original composition with her eyes covered is just better and way more interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I was on the fence about giving any time to viewing Wicked but I think it's gonna be a hard pass now.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look, I'm all about listening to a woman of color explain how something that might seem innocuous to a white man like me might actually be harmful. I'm willing to accept that there are things I don't fully understand and I'm willing to take a different perspective if pressed.

But I can't wrap my head around this one. Elphaba is a fictional character. The movie poster is almost the same as the Broadway playbill. Theatre nerds with photoshop adjusted it as a homage, and understandably so. Hiding beneath the the rim of your hat with a smirk on your face has a much different feel than staring deadpan at the camera. Wicked fans are just expressing their excitement about this movie...

This argument that "covering my eyes erases me and silences my nonverbal communication" just doesn't check out. It's clear why people made that specific adjustment, and to suggest that it was a deliberate attack against the actress is just grasping at straws. This isn't a story about the woman Cynthia Erivo, this is a story about the character Elphaba Thropp, The Wicked Witch of the West. She isn't the first to play Elphaba, and she won't be the last. If she's mad that people see the character she plays and not her, she needs to reconsider her philosophy towards acting, because that kinda the whole point...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What is she trying to communicate anyway? She has the plainest, most boring face of all time, just staring at the camera with the eyes of a dead fish. There is no communication going on.

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