this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2024
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Combat Evolved came out 23 years ago. That's older than Super Mario Bros. was when the Wii launched.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to downvote you but I cant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I am very upset with you right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Shiiit... By 2 years. 3 if you go by the Japanese release.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Original Halo was released in 2001, 23 years ago.

Super Mario Bros was released in 1985, 39 years ago.

There is less time between the release of the first SMB and Halo than Halo and the present day, 16 years...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Crazy to know that Cleopatra was born closer to the creation of Halo: Combat Evolved than to the Great Pyramid of Giza.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

It's interesting how much technology has slowed down. Back in the 80s and 90s a 5 year old game looked horribly outdated. Now we're getting close to some 20 year old games still looking pretty decent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Technology has slowed down, but there's also diminishing returns for what you can do with a game's graphics etc.

  • The original Halo ran at 480p on the Xbox. 4K UHD has 27 times the number of pixels as that. The resolution increase from the NES to Halo was about 5.35 times.
  • Games nowadays on PCs are often capable of running smoothly into the hundreds of frames per second, but of course for example the difference between 21 and 30 FPS is more noticeable than the one between 231 and 240 FPS. (Looking at you, OoT)
  • Render distances are much larger with less obvious compromise on LoD.
  • Stuff like ray-tracing is of some graphical benefit but is hugely computationally taxing, and there's nothing you can do about that. It's just more diminishing returns.
  • Physics engines are much more complex.
  • At some point, a limiting factor just becomes art direction and budget. You can have all the fancy techniques you want, but you still need to make detailed textures, animations, etc.
  • The amount of polygons starts to hit a ceiling too where the model is basically continuous to the human eye, so adding more polys might only help very subtly.
  • Color depth is basically a solved problem now too compared to going from the NES to the Xbox.

You can think of sampling audio. If I have a bit depth of 1, and I upgrade that to 16, it's going to sound a hell of a lot more like an improvement than if I were to upgrade from 48 to 64.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True. Was playing Arkham Knight the other day and thought this nine year old game looked better than at least half of current gen games.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Same with movies. LOTR is almost 25 years old and still looks great.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Pac Man was younger when Halo was released than Master Chief is today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

You made my knees hurt.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's only 4 years between FF7 and Halo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...Hmm this guy must be wrong

Checks

FF7 1997/ Halo: CE 2001

Fuck me!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You think you're old? I was playing Bungie games when they were only on Mac.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I played Atari 2600 back when it was the console to have. I didn’t see a pixel that wasn’t square until I was a man. You think you know old gaming. I was born into it, molded by it, and it made me what I am today; an old man with back pain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I still miss the atomic hand grenade…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Frog blast the vent core!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You think you're old? I was playing games on Apples, not Macs...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think your old. I was playing pong with paddles on channel 3.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Back then, Halo felt like running 26.219 miles

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Space Invaders, Asteroid, Pong, Adventure… these are retro

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, Space War is retro.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

halo is retro for a 25 year old

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It stings at first, but once you realize you can now play all of the classics on emulators it helps take the pain away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo would like to know your location

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nintendo knows

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

At least they used the correct armor.

It irks me when they use the armor from Halo 2 or the remastered game to represent Combat Evolved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Time to change this community name to u/reallyoldgames.

[–] MajorHavoc 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hurts a little!? Lol. I just turned into a skeleton and then a pile of dust and blew away in the wind. Oof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Young Link's third appearance was as a dead skeleton afraid that he left no legacy 18 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I stumbled across this today and still don't believe it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but remember the way Xbox started up? So futuristic. Boomba Boom boom SQUAAAOOW blblblbblbltingley bingley beep beep dink. That could never be retro.

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