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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

... Who is going to be fronting all those video hosting storage costs??

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Dan has mentioned some time ago that he was thinking about making the videos delete themselves after some time, but I'm not sure if he ever followed up with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Well peertube is struggling already so thats a valid question. Idk if they using peertube style bitorrent video delivery that might help offload the cost a little.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IMO a very small amount of storage should be free but after that the user needs to pay. It's the right thing to do for hosts and for the environment. If content creators need massive amounts of video then that will incentivize them to make money on it.

The only people left out are small, niche channels that have quality or important content but don't make much money. Maybe they could be cut special deals by the hosts / donors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Creator coops like nebula are absolutely where things need to end up on the higher usage end.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm very intrigued, Dan Sup is one of the most interesting people working in the fediverse these days, and I'm very curious about anything he puts forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not very interested in a TikTok Clone. I wished he worked on sup instead, his idea for a federated chat.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know what to make of this. Regular tiktok just is sooooo offputting to me. The 50x overlays. The voiceovers which are the basis of the content, with the video that has NOTHING to do with the content. The chinese spying. It's all just very bad.

But then I remember a federated version would be.......different. I can't imagine it would be like tiktok with text overlays. I can't imagine the content would be similar either. It'll be like "here's the better way to sudo your linux....."

Which, as someone who doesn't care about linux, I'd find it less offensive, but still wouldn't care about it.

All in all, I'm not excited for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It's a bit hard to imagine the fediverse crowd being huge on a tiktok-like platform. I think it's an important development, even just as a proof of concept, but it would have to attract an audience from a whole different target audience, and one that might have less patience for technical hiccups.

I think video content is also fundamentally more asymmetrical - from a few influencers to a large number of consumers. Which is probably what the fediverse is heading towards as well, but it's not what it does best at the moment.

I don't think I'm the target audience of this, and I'm not sure it'll be a success. But I think it's a very interesting and important development anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My Tiktok feed is legal analysis of court cases, magic the gathering card reviews, and Marvel deep dives. You get fed what you watch.

Just report that voiceover shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, TikTok has now 10 minutes long videos. The feed is based on what you interact with. There is quality content there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'm actually interested to see how this does so I've been following it.

As someone who enjoyed the brief comet that was Vine but despises TikTok, this feels like a throw back to that.

Of course, I'd be delusional if I said that wasn't hopeful thinking.

You can also follow it yourself at loops.video

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's just... Part of TikTok is attention-seeking.

It's kinda the entire point for a lot of the users and uploaders, that and getting paid to continue the cycle of creating more content.

If you're expecting us, as-in, the federated populace on Lemmy and Mastodon to use it, I dunno, man. Sharing personal content is a very rare use case here. We usually stick to news and memes.

Then again, communities that are rather reliant on a performance like fishing, sports, guitar, drums, and skill toys like yoyos might get a use out of having a safe public place to upload themselves without outside influence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

A lot of content on Tiktok is about presenting content rather the person. It can be similar to Youtube, but more accessible for beginners content creators now that a lot of Youtubers have a professional setup, and barrier to entry is much higher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t think it’s gonna be here in a week. They are still accepting people for the beta.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do we know in what language it's built on?

[–] AsudoxDev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably PHP. Pixelfed was also built with PHP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm very excited

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what. The the eff is loops?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

It's like tiktok but federated

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reddit hated TicToc and Lemmy hates Loops...

[–] AsudoxDev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody really said that. Loops is federated open source software so I doubt anyone will hate it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I mean I know it was a hyperbole. There are negative comments in the thread, though. They mostly don't like it for it's short video form and algorithm I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago