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Caroline Ellison has been sentenced to two years in jail for her role in the collapse of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, which has been described as one of biggest financial frauds in US history.

Ellison was a top executive at the firm and is also the ex-girlfriend of its founder, Sam Bankman-Fried, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison for stealing $8bn (£6.3bn) from customers.

As part of a plea deal, Ellison admitted charges including wire fraud and money laundering, and testified against Bankman-Fried.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Coincidentally I just finished the Behind the Bastards update episode on the Bankman-Fried case from back in 2023. Apparently her diary was leaked by Sam to the press in an attempt to discredit her testimony which backfired on him lmao.

Good to see her also receive consequences.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

if you haven't seen it yet Coffeezilla on yt has made good videos on it and even went to the courtroom to watch it in person

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She commited the ultimate crime: stealing from rich people

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

she was stealing from cryptobros which is pretty funny and morally neutral, because cryptobros don't deserve having money

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't this lady also playing the role of fucktoy for him? Those two going at it doesn't conjure a positive mental image.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Worse, on her blog she conceived of herself as the chief consort in his harem in between sharing her thoughts on race science and Harry Potter house sorting quizzes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can forgive stealing billions, but I draw the line at being a Harry Potter adult.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

What's the harm in a little bit of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I say that's weird will someone from hexbear appear to tell me I'm kink shaming?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah it’s weird. Like it’s fine if the first part is your kink. It’s not even super rare, but firstly him? Secondly the race science. Thirdly, fuck y’all are bad at poly, like worse at poly than the people constantly talking about poly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thirdly, fuck y’all are bad at poly, like worse at poly than the people constantly talking about poly.

You are not kidding. I nearly forgot about this story and the absolutely gross and unethical sexual practice at work here. From the article linked earlier:

“None of this non-hierarchical bullshit,” the account elaborated. “Everyone should have a ranking of their partners, people should know where they fall on the ranking, and there should be vicious power struggles for the ranks.”

For those following along: if you browse the existing literature on poly practice, this uncompassionate practice doesn't show up anywhere. These animals were using the "poly" term as a fig-leaf for their Lord of the Flies inspired, libertine, thunderdome-style non-monogamy. I'd even hesitate to call it a cult, only because it just seems so incredibly unstable as a concept. These are the people your polycule will warn you about.

No wonder these people fleeced others for billions. There's having a skewed moral compass, and then there's having a huge vacuum where a conscience and empathy should be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

“None of this non-hierarchical bullshit,” the account elaborated. “Everyone should have a ranking of their partners, people should know where they fall on the ranking, and there should be vicious power struggles for the ranks.”

So polyamory, but fascist

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah I’ve been practicing hierarchical poly for years, all of my current relationships began polyamorous. Hierarchical relationships are fine, it’s far more of a “her and I are on the ‘move in and marry’ path, and you have a husband and kids, our relationship is obviously the less important for both of us” type deal. Ranked competitive nonmonogamy is fucking insane. Like, it seems like an amazing way to make yourself absolutely fucking miserable and to deny yourself the comforts of love while pretending to be pursuing more of it.

I really can’t grasp how someone decides to do this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nah, as near as I can tell that group is vigorously in favor of suspending all human rights for capitalists, so regardless of their views on kink I think they'd be inclined to let the comment slide.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The picture of her, wow. She's only 30 and the pictures of her before the trial are much more inline with a 20 something. She's going to look like a 60 year old when she's done doing her time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does she look both 12 and 50?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did I read it right that he got 25 years, and she got 110? And the 110 was a reduction after testifying against him?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“She had faced a maximum sentence… of 110 years in prison.” She got 2, but the max would have been 110.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, that's much clearer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She got 2 according to the headline

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Lol, thanks. I read the article, but not the headline, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Headline rewrite because I had to read it 5 times to understand it:

Caroline Ellison, who then helped now ~~convited~~ convicted Sam Bankman-Fried in his FTX crypto fraud, is herself convicted and sentenced to two years for fraud

edit: fixed spelling thanks @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but she also spilled beans on SBF, that's why she's got only 2 years and not 25 like SBF despite being equally deep in the fraud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not equally deep:

Her sentence was lower because she 1. regretted it and 2. didn't profit from the fraud according to the judge

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

"She was also ordered to forfeit more than $11bn (£8.2bn) to the court."

That sounds like profit to me. It was the cooperation with the court that really did it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

on top of these 11 billion dollars recovered, meaning that these were stolen, she also lived rent free in whatever bahamas mansion was bought with sbf's money, with all their ranked competitive polycule roommates

it's 100% cooperation with the court that cut down sentence that hard

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reread your attempt again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Saw the spelling mistake, thanks! It is now even more clear that she wasn't sentenced to fraud because she helped convict Sam Bankman-Fried, but because of her own actions in committing fraud at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think you may have misunderstood the headline.

It's not supposed to be "now convicted". She helped the lawyers make a case against SBF. She helped in the process of convicting him. She helped convict him. It's true that she did also help him do the naughty things but that's not what this headline is saying.

Your version of the headline does not convey this aspect.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Well I know what prison gang her eugenicist ass is pledging

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

She reminds me of Janet Fist, vigilante receptionist