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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Greece with the steel chair

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Greece is basically a one big olive that Greeks live on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Nothing described in that article even remotely resembles a war. The title is pure, shameless clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In this case both wins, Italy gets a cut and Spain gets to sell their oil.

The only loses is us consumers.

Regarding olives, my favorite are Kalamata from Greece.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Olive oil will become a luxury product anyway, with Xylella and climate change harming production. Italy's olive future looks especially grim, considering we've banned cultivattion of GMOs which could aid against the parasites and droughts.

Most (all?) people I've cooked with use EVO oil for everything but deep frying, so I bet a significant fraction of olive oil used in Italy ends up ruined in a hot pan!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Same. All hail the mighty Kalamata.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Morocco meanwhile laughing away watching with their olives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's an angle I've yet to see at upscale markets, turbo-branding the specific qualities of olive oil from Morocco.
Someone could make a fortune if they're not careful!
"Whoops! I slipped on Moroccan olive oil and hit the ground rich!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just don't let Murica hear that 'O' word or they'd be coming with their guns blazing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which O? Oil or Olive, because olives are to die for. Possibly in a war. Just sayin’.

How does Kamala feel about olives?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She wants to invade for them, but the Joint Chiefs told her it would be… Kalamata-ous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Take your upvote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They can't burn this in their V12 that gets 1 MPG so Spain and Italy are safe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

The Arabs used to say that and look where we are now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Italy has a fraction of the territory of Spain, of which a fraction is usable in agriculture (Italy is mostly mountains), and a fraction of that can be used for Olive trees. Of course Spain has more yield, with their immense spaces and flat fields.

As for selling more or less, it's just a supply chain thing, Italian companies were better placed to sell it, but the bottle clearly states when it's Italian oil and when it's not.
These sort of antagonizing takes intra-EU are not helpful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

A lot of the olives are grown in North Africa, then shipped to Italy. There they are turned into Italian olive oil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Italy is 60% of the size of Spain and has a similar ratio of arable land (27.1 vs 27.9% per Wikipedia, Spain is also quite mountainous). Doesn't really invalidate the point in your comment, but I expected a bigger difference when comparing "immense spaces and flat fields"to a mostly mountainous fraction of the territory

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I'm surprised, but anyway you grow crops on arable land, not trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A big difference between Spain and at least Greece, is that in Spain, farmers tend to optimize for yield. This means they are planting and cutting down trees quite often, whereas in Greece old trees are usually left standing for longer.

(Can't really say about Italy though.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Large parts of spain are almost desert though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

One of the world's biggest olive producers is Tunisia, where you have actual desert. Anything that can capture a little of the humidity, like valleys in between hills, they plant olive trees. If it has a little more water it's dates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Which is the perfect climate to grow olive trees. The more arid, the better.