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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Somewhere Howard Dean is wondering how the fuck he was too unhinged to be electable in the face of daily insanity from the orange.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement, "There is no place in this country for political violence of any kind."

Unless it is against the people, minorities, poor countries, or whistleblowers.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

All violence is political violence.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Heck, in the US I'd almost say all politics is political violence. It seems that anytime you advocate for nonviolence here you're called naive at best, murdered at worst. Plus, our whole society was built in blood.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm at a point where I think he's more useful alive than dead. I feel like he's ALREADY going to lose 2024. I'm a little baffled that it's even a close race at all, but I'm still confident that between the debate, and the Taylor Swift endorsement he's dug his own grave. And with that, it means he lost 2020 election, and the 2024 election. Would the GOP really endorse a 2X loser in 2028?

I think him being alive forces them to support their own self made loser. And now even fox news is calling him a loser.

He likes to say things like "they're laughing at us!"

No. They're laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country. Not the democrats. Not anybody else but you. You are a loser, soon to be a two time loser, with two impeachments and 34 convictions. Nobody in American history loses bigger than you donald trump.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. They're laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country.

The country is also a laughing stock but yes Trump is a big part of it

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Alive he can go down in ignominy and we can move past him. Dead, he would be a martyr and would never leave America's conscience.

I was a toddler when Nixon went down, but I heard what my parents had to say and combined that with what I've learned of history. Nixon was very popular, but once he went down he was like Voldemort, the one who shall not be named.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If he's alive they will endorse him. There's someone pulling the strings in the Republican party, I'd guess Putin. Republicans used to be the regular kind of horrible, now they're just repugnant and evil. Trump is the perfect figurehead.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm just glad this fucker is old. Could you imagine if we had to put up with this shit for 20 more years?

He's done regardless after this run.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Yeah but their aim was even worse than the other idiot. These nutjobs need to get their shit together; I've been successfully assassinated in political video games for a fraction of what the Orange Idiot's done to real people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Look up how many attempts Hitler survived, ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The 42 attempts at assassinating Hitler ain't nothing to sneeze at but Fidel Castro would like a word. The CIA attempted to assassinate him 638 times.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How can this NOT mean that all CIA agents are like Mr. Magoo?

How do you fail at a singular task more than 600 times and still have the world think you're some fearsome spy force?

"Well, sure, he was knocked out 638 times, but those 2 decision victories sure were something... Greatest boxer of all-time!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It makes sense if you think of them as extremely well-funded frat boys with a free pass to break laws.

They just kind of do shit, and if it doesn't work they keep trying until something sticks or they run out of steam. They get killed all the time.

It's still scary, but just a lot less cool.

The reason we think of them as hypercompetent masters of espionage is because that makes better movies, and also because the US government funds movies that make them look good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

To be fair, most of the CIA was on an awful lot of LSD around that time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did the guy even fire shots? From what I heard he was just in the area and carrying a firearm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Calm down guys! He's not a Kennedy!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Swifties don’t play.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Two back to back like this? My tin foil hat money is that Loomer is angling to get Trump to divorce Melania then elope with her. Eric Jr knows that his dad will do it and is terrified of getting cut out of the will once Loomer gets her hooks in Trumps dementia riddled ass, so he’s hiring people to kill his dad before the inheritance can get fucked with. I can’t come up with any other reason we’ve had such poor assassination attempts so quickly like this. The bumbling foolishness has Jr fingerprints all over it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

Now that's a conspiracy theory! Way better than the ludicrous-yet-unimaginative shit the MAGAs come up with.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it is unclear just how much trump is angry at ivanka and jared for allegedly narcing on them.

But pretty sure even eric and don jr know they are getting dick all. He openly loathes them and it might be his only redeeming quality.

Nah. It is just the nature of being the party of gun nuts while openly failing almost all of their purity tests. We actually saw similar (just to a much lesser degree) when trump said something like "I love vaccines" and was boo'd like crazy.

He is a symptom of the rot. Not the source. And by and large he just tries to ride it as best he can.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So fucking crazy that anyone will repeat something when the only source is "According to the Trump campaign"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If Satan's asshole had a face

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

So I guess you could say the response was... swift

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

This post is how I found out about this 2nd attempt.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

I mean, if you have participated in the plane discourse, you've probably learned that Swifties stop at nothing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How convenient when he's slipping in the polls and had a pretty bad week last week...

How. Convenient.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I refuse to believe a person who otherwise wouldn't vote for Trump will vote for Trump because he was shot at.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I think it's to rule the news cycle, like that conspiracy loony etc. Anything to make forget about the crazily bad debate he did.

Not saying he invented this "heard gunshots" himself, but that is how it's useful.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Second attempt just doesn't hit the same

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Don't. Fuck. With. Swift.

That was just a warning.

J/K, IDK 😛

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That's two legitimate assassination attempts in a very short period of time, I wonder what effect that would have on someone's state of mind?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (9 children)

He ain't gonna have a Saul/Paul moment, I can tell you that.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Right after his first assasination, there was a thread where someone said "If that happened to someone else, they'd probably have PTSD".

And I said "What makes you think he DOESN'T have PTSD after a bullet that was 100% intentionally fired at him, with the intention to kill him, narrowly missed because he just so happened to turn his head inches away from the path by total accident?"

The general consensus was that trump can't have ptsd because he's a bad person who ruins others lives.

And thats total bullshit. Not the part about him being a bad person, and ruining others lives. Thats still true. He IS a piece of shit who seperated families from their children, leaving them to bake, and sometimes die in metal boxes without water.

The part thats bullshit is the idea that bad people can't get ptsd because they're bad people. I fully believe trump had/has ptsd, and this will only reignite it further.

I hope he doesn't become president. Harris is the best case scenario in every case except one. I fully believe that if trump becomes president, he's going to make a much harder push for gun reform simply because for him personally it's literally a life or death situation.

If he becomes president, I would not be surprised if he tries to end gun ownership being legal.

That being said, I don't expect that plan to come to fruition. I fully expect it to fail because it would be a legal and logistical nightmare. But my point is on this one issue he would actually try. Whereas it's not going to be a major issue for Harris.

Harris will have many issues she's trying to address, while trump, once again, will only thinking of himself. It just so happens that his one issue just so happens to benefit everyone. Not by design, but as a biproduct.

That being said, it's FAR more important for Harris to win. Many issues are more important than one.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

no fkn way.. he got shot at again???

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nah somebody nearby had a gun and the FBI I think shot at that guy. AFAIK nobody actually got shot and they arrested gun dude on the highway later.

Edit - sorry for bad link, still don’t think i can do relative post links. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/27862700

Secret service shot at guy, guy had scoped AK and a GoPro when they shot at him apparently. Now I’m wondering if there was a 4chan post recently.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A Secret Service agent spotted a rifle barrel sticking out of fence and “engaged” with the suspect, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said at a news conference late Sunday afternoon. The gunman was 300 to 500 yards away from Trump, a Secret Service official said. Law enforcement found an AK-47 style rifle, GoPro and backpacks where the suspect was positioned, Bradshaw said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

OK, seriously.

AK47s and AR15s are not what you're looking for here. A nice Sako or Weatherby in 6.5 Creedmoor or .300WSM is a much better choice. And make sure your optics are matching the quality of the gun; we're looking for .5MOA or better.

Get your shit together, guys.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

FFS

Thats a 300-500m shot. ~~You could hit him with an off the shelf scoped .22~~ (effective range140 yd). I'd personally go for a .270 but wonder if he's worth the extra cost... imagine the headline, killed by one of the smallest calibers in common use.

And why the fuck would you stick the barrel through the fence??

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just saying .30/06 is a classic in both deer and Nazi hunting for a reason

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Just proves your everyday john doe doesnt know how to use that shiny new ak47 he just bought. Strike two as of now

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