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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Well, what other word do you use to teach a kid the alphabet? Xenophoe? Xenomorph?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

xenophobe

That way you can teach the concepts of bigotry and tolerance from a young age.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know, a 5 year old might think that's a cool word and say they want to be xenophobe when they grow up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

See, this way we can spot them earlier. Way too many of them go on to live their dream—when they could have had their course adjusted at the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Ok sure but I grew up in the 90s and ended up becoming a xylophone and Im not sure that's any better.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Xolo - hairless Mexican dog

Xenops - small bird

(I don’t use X-Ray because saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds

Excuse me?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

X, spoken as a letter = ecks

Hard phonetic sound = zz, same as the letter Z (almost always at the beginning of a word. Xylophone)

Soft phonetic sound = ksk (never at the beginning of a word. Box, oxen)

(disclaimer: American English, ymmv.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By this definition, Xolo wouldn't fit because the x in Xolo is somewhere between sh- and ch-. It's a Nahuatl word and many (if not all) Xs are sh-/ch-.

Sorry for being pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And also its Xoloitzcuintle. A bit of a mouth full for a 6 year old. Also, like you said a nahuatl word and not English.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

xoloitzcuintle is underrepresented though

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don’t be sorry, you’re not pedantic enough.

The Nahuatl word Xoloitzcuintle is something the vast majority of English-speaking Americans can’t read, let alone spell or pronounce correctly. So the more digestible word Xolo was adopted to identify Mexican hairless dogs (hard X, hard O, L, hard O).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

As an English speaking American I can confirm. I started pronouncing it in my head then kinda gave up cus I haven’t had enough coffee yet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

X, spoken as a letter ecks

Or ex

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, i think i get it but difficult to explain.

Say X, X, X in a row

Then say

Xylo , Xen, Xono

The Raw letter has different phonet-x to how it’s often applied.

When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

I do realize that this might be very cultural and language dependent but i am pretty sure we’re talking plain english.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

This is only slightly related but I once met a young (USAmerican) adult who thought the stripy horse animal's name was pronounced zed-bra in British English and it was really hard to convince her otherwise. In her mind zebra was strongly connected to Z-bra, so of course if someone was to pronounce the letter "zed" it would turn into "zed-bra" and not just into "zeh-bra".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Xanthan gum

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

X-ray? X, Professor? Xerox?

[–] gnutrino 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Xenon? Xylem? Xenobiology? Xanthoma? Xylocarp? Xiphoid? Xerosis? Xyster? The scrabble favorites xi and xu?

There's loads of cool words that begin with x

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Xylophone: fun, colorful, easy for a kid to remember as a cute little instrument

Xenon: An inert gas used in... MRI scans, I think?

X-ray is probably the only other 'X' word with more real-world representation than xylophone, and as pointed out above, that's not quite representative of how the letter is used phonetically in the rest of the language.

[–] gnutrino 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Xylem is a major component of almost all the plants you see. I'm not sure how much more real-world representation you can get...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By "real-world representation", I mean "how often the word is actually used in the real world." There are hundreds of trillions of neutrinos passing through you all the time, but I'd still think "nest" is a better word for kids.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Xenomorph, gotta teach them young that sometimes it's best to just nuke the whole thing from orbit.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see someone's a marimba fan.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They just have a fuller sound. Marimba master race!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can't resist a 5 octave rosewood marimba.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I can't afford one either!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

The word “xylophone” comes from the Ancient Greek ξύλον (xúlon) meaning “wood” and φωνή (phōnḗ) meaning “sound” or “voice.”

So this instrument with metal bars that you hit with a hammer to produce sound is called a…?

That’s right! A “glockenspiel!”

(I stole this from someone else on the internet.)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, vibraphones is where it's at!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Tortoise was the first group i heard using them, led me get into some of vibraphonist Cal Tjader's material and some lesser known vibraphone groups/artists (though Tortoise is much more my speed) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqmgY6WTVw

Though she often played marimba, Frank Zappa's percussionist Ruth Underwood was a monster with the mallets as well... Again not vibraphones in this particular example but anyone who digs them may want to see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Sq0chFjps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It was always an exciting day in band when we got to turn the vibrophone resonator fans on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As a father of toddlers learning ABCs, I agree. I've seen some weird side steps, like X-ray Fish for an animal themed one, or Xerox--- a company name. Or just straight up Fox because they couldn't think of Xylophone or any other X words.

But, what's the age appropriate alternative?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

X formerly known as Twitter?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You could teach them about the wonderful sport of xarexarebut then you'd have to explain all the basque pelota sports

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Xavier, Charles

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In cartoons and music geared toward toddlers, I agree.

Where's the sick-ass xylophone solos in heavy metal though?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Big xylophone is gerrymandering the alphabet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Someone going to pop a glockenspiel

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No it's not enough.

Ita a great sound, it's woody, it's haunting it's under-utilised in rock music.

https://youtu.be/ou7GZDeOp3g?si=eUvuv82oIQvo3I0y

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Possibly overrepresented on a couple Frank Zappa albums..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

~~Possibly overrepresented~~ Prominently featured on a couple Frank Zappa albums..

Kidding aside, it's all a matter of taste! Luckily with Zappa there are tons of flavors to choose from 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I know that's right. We all fuckin love Ruth!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Me, rubbing my fingers across the metal bars of the instrument: "This isn't a xylophone, you fool! It's a stinking glockenspiel!"

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