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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Was it stubborness or necessity? There's this myth of early humans being foolhardy or even stupid and just stuffing whatever they can find in their gob, but starvation was a real killer.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, but there are still plenty of lactose intolerant people that insist on drinking milk and not taking any medicine...

So, I'd guess a bit of both.

I'll just also add that getting sick because of the milk doesn't alleviate any starvation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have a friend who does that. He insists that ice cream is worth it if we're out gallivanting. The rest of the car does not agree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Maybe you should gift them lactase enzymes...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Have you met people..?

We're worse than pigs. Worse than dogs, even.

We'll stuff anything into our mouths, no matter what it tastes like or what it does to our bodies, and we don't eat even more garbage because our parents train it out of us when we try to stuff random shit into our mouths as toddlers.

Fuck, we use poisons and toxins plants have evolved over hundreds of millions of years to make themselves inedible (and which do kill most other critters that try to eat them, so be very careful what you feed your pets) to make other foods taste “better”!

Suckling that massive deadly horned beast's teat will give you a bellyache and the runs..? Who the fuck cares‽ We're human! We'll suckle the damn teat because it's there, by jingo, even if we end up getting gored and trampled by the beast, and we will like it! And then we'll roast the beast and eat it too, stewed in its brethren's milk, and seasoned with poisonous plants! And raise its children to do the same to them once they've grown up! And some while they're still young, more tender!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

We've got that sweet sweet massive liver. We can eat whatever!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Humans are basically masochistic orcs confirmed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it has horns, that isn't milk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both cows and bulls have horns.

That said, I'm sure bull “milk” has been tried at some point, people being people, but it wouldn't make good cheese and bulls don't produce it in sufficient quantity to build a food industry around it (except as a way to produce more cows).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you met people..?

We're worse than pigs. Worse than dogs, even.

We'll stuff anything into our mouths, no matter what it tastes like or what it does to our bodies, and we don't eat even more garbage because our parents train it out of us when we try to stuff random shit into our mouths as toddlers.

Fuck, we use poisons and toxins plants have evolved over hundreds of millions of years to make themselves inedible (and which do kill most other critters that try to eat them, so be very careful what you feed your pets) to make other foods taste “better”!

Suckling that massive deadly horned beast's teat will give you a bellyache and the runs..? Who the fuck cares‽ We're human! We'll suckle the damn teat because it's there, by jingo, even if we end up getting gored and trampled by the beast, and we will like it! And then we'll roast the beast and eat it too, stewed in its brethren's milk, and seasoned with poisonous plants! And raise its children to do the same to them once they've grown up! And some while they're still young, more tender!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it has horns, that isn't milk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Both cows and bulls have horns.

That said, I'm sure bull “milk” has been tried at some point, people being people, but it wouldn't make good cheese and bulls don't produce it in sufficient quantity to build a food industry around it (except as a way to produce more cows).

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I always thought the first person to eat cheese must have been either desperate or brave or both

It turns out though, that the fermentation made it far, far easier on the stomach for our caveman friends, and that's how it became so popular and widespread

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cheese was also quite important for military campaigns and the like because it is nutritious and has a long shelf life, which is at least documented for the time of the ancient Romans. So the person who dared to try it first is indeed a historically significant figure - but in my eyes more of a culinary mastermind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

It's also super calorie dense ona weight to volume ratio

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is what the rest of the world is doing rn

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

I remember when the first subway opened in Xi'an. I was so excited after months of eating Chinese food (and some Indian and pizza hut for alts). There was a line of people and they were getting everything on their sandwiches including multiple cheeses. If it didn't cost more you just took it in Chinese food culture. I got my turkey and provolone and was enjoying that shitty shit sandwich just for it's novelty. The people before me were trying to eat their globby shit sandwich with extra cheese and the look on their faces were of complete disgust. I think subway did serious damage to sandwich futures in China that day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not me chief :

🎶 it destroys my tum tummmmm🎶

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I think it's possible I'm at least a bit lactose intolerant. I haven't really looked into it because I know I'm not stopping, so what's the point? Is life without milk, butter, and cheese even a life worth living? I seriously doubt it. No offense to those living worthless lives who can't help it!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's a whole world of culinary delight waiting for you when you realize that dairy isn't the only flavor! I became severely lactose intolerant a long time ago. It was sad at first, but after trying a variety of Indian, Chinese, Korean, and other Asian dishes, I found it to be a lot more enjoyable. There's so much more to life than using mountains of cheese and rivers of gravy to make something taste good.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

There's more to life than whacking off to porn to get off, but damn if it's not quick, easy, and relatively shame-free. Cheese is much the same way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

They make little pills you take before you eat all that lactose that help you digest it without being miserable. So you can do something of you know you're lactose intolerant short of giving it up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agree. If I become intolerant, then I will just die shitting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It hit me suddenly and violently at age 56. Hit my mother around 50. No pizza or ice cream for me, but I have always loved sharp chesses and still enjoy them without problems.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Butter and most hard cheeses have very little lactose. If you look at the nutrition information and there's 0g sugar in a dairy product? That's lactose free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I love me some dairy, not lactose intolerant in the least, but I ain't gon touch cheese. That shit wrecks my gut and tastes more foul than an acidic fart. Turned dairy (cheese, curds, sour cream, yogurt, etc.) just does not work for me for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sure I might be intolerant, but have you pondered ice cream?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Pretty cool that they were so stubborn they granted us the ability to digest milk

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

every single person I have ever met who is lactose intolerant still eats ice-cream and other stuff with milk in it (me included)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not perfect, but I love oat milk instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oat and almond milk have their places, such as smoothies 🤤

But sometimes, a glass of cold milk is just the only acceptable option

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

You mean like alcohol?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Also Later Europeans and Americans. What's life without a little cheese, farts, and diarrhea?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Milk gives me the magic superpower to fart whenever I want, and as a British, that's all I need to become the next top comedian. Drink milk, love life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago