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I've had enough of the text editing issue, where when you press backspace it highlights the space before the word and ends up deleting it. The developer passes off responsibility for this to the engine they use and seems to have no intention of addressing it.

What are the pros and cons of the other Android apps? I'm only considering ones on F-Droid, not the Play Store, so that rules out Summit and Boost. Ones I have available are:

  • Thunder (IzzyOnDroid)
  • Interstellar (IzzyOnDroid)
  • Voyager
  • Eternity
  • muffed (IzzyOnDroid)
  • Combustible
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

I've been using Voyager for a few months and I love it. Highly recommended.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've tried pretty much every app there is and ended up with Thunder. It's got a huge amount of features and polish, a clean UI and gets regular updates. The only issue is that I don't see the number of upvotes on posts since my home instance upgraded Lemmy, though that will probably get fixed soon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've been using Thunder since I came to Lemmy, and I'm shocked to not see it mentioned more. It's fantastic, and seems to just feel right as someone that used rif for reddit

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Voyager is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I went from Jerboa to Eternity to Thunder. I liked Eternity a lot but it doesn't get developed very actively which causes issues. Spoiler tags for example aren't implemented correctly. Voyager seems to be great as well from all I have heard, but I don't like its UI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

UI preference is a key decider, imo!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That's why I support Eternity (and Infinity before that), but also use Voyager (I have a lot of others installed too, but they sleep).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I went from Jerboa to Eternity to Raccoon to Voyager. I have to say Voyager is the most mature lemmy app when it comes to current features, development of new features, customizability and stability.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

FYI lemmy is a Progressive Web App you can install from your mobile browser of choice

Never bothered with any 3rd party apps

[–] fuzzzerd 4 points 3 months ago

So is Voyager (also on fdroid, but is just a pwa) and its miles ahead of the native Lemmy UI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm using an app called Hermit for this. It makes webpages into apps and gives flexibility to customize them heavily. User scripts as well. It works great with my instance (lemdroid) since they offer a few front end options.

You can also solo apps from each other. Definitely check it out.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I use Jerboa with zero problems. My keyboard is OpenBoard with Gesture Typing (similar to Swype) and I have none of the issues you report.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah others are saying it's to do with the keyboard, or rather that other keyboards seem to get around the bug. However it's only Jerboa that I have this issue with.

I'm using the standard Android Keyboard (AOSP), so it's not something you would expect to have errors. Don't really want to change as I'm used to it and have it set up for different nationalities (Greek for maths, couple other countries for their funky accented letters).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Once you try swiping to type, you never want to go back. And OpenBoard has Greek letters of course. Honestly, give it a spin - regardless of your problem with Jerboa: I bet you'll love it. Worst case, you'll have wasted 10 minutes installing it, trying it out without success and uninstalling it 🙂

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I understand you prefer f-droid, I'm also an old FOSS user, but I used Sync for reddit for like 13 years and bought the "no ads" version of Sync for lemmy in the first hour it came out too... I only used Jerboa in the beginning for a couple of months.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I can't get anything else to look and feel as nice as Sync, either. It's even worth spoiler tags not always working.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I tried Thunder, Sync, Liftoff, Boost, and settled on Eternity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Muffed & Combustible, seem to be dead, Interstellar early development it seems & more geared towards Kbin... Eternity (very good) recently had a update after months of inactivity, whereas Voyager & Thunder (both excellent) have active devs and continuous support & updates..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Looks like I'll lean towards Voyager and Thunder, might give Eternity a go also. I had Voyager before but was sticking it out with Jerboa, we'll see how I feel this time. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

You can't really go wrong with either of those, I do lean towards Voyager as a personal preference... Raccoon is another that I really like, but I'm not sure if that will see any further development...🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to fork the conversation, but I noticed nobody mentioned connect. Are these other apps really a lot better?.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Based on the Megathread, Connect doesn't have an F-Droid repo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Oooh. Yup. I need coffee. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what phone do you have?

use whatever app you want, I'm just curious because I've been using jerboa since the beginning without any issues, im on a pixel 6.

did you try using a different keyboard?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Part of the reason for the move is upgrading from a Poco F3 to a Pixel 7 Pro (although I'm sad to lose the IR blaster). However I run custom ROMs, so I've been using the keyboard that comes with DivestOS and AXP.OS. Don't really want to try another keyboard lol but others have said that might fix it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

got it.

i hope the 7 is good, I'm donnne with pixels after this guy.

i hear they're great with custom roms but haven't tried replacing mine yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah DivestOS ticks nearly all the boxes for me (eg call recording and custom gestures eg long press back to force close), however there were a few little niggles that custom ROMs have with other manufacturers - the camera is usually closed source so you can't quite get all out of it, and also I was having issues with pocket detection where a message or call would turn my screen on and then it would either answer in my pocket or mess with the audio player on the lock screen. Not had any of those issues so far with the Pixel.

However curved screens suck balls, and the cheap screen protector I got is already cracked lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

haha, dang. man the stock camera pixel 6 app is horseshit for me, even taking .raw photos it applies filters and effects that there's no way to disable.

over been wondering if camera apps are the alt option to go for, but i take videos much more often than I take photos anyway, so it isn't too frustrating...except every single time I want to take a candid picture haha.

yea curved screens can get outta here.

have you tried grapheneos? everyone was encouraging me to try that on one of my pixel 6 rants some months ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was tempted by GrapheneOS, my son used it for a while on his older Pixel, but I always resented all the diva drama from the devs. AXP.OS seemed like an easy transition, basically using the same ROM as my old phone (AXP.OS is a DivestOS fork).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want it through an F-Droid repo so I can use the elevated priveleges I give F-Droid, such that I don't have to approve each install.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Makes sense!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I tried the paid ones like Boost and Sync but eventually have settled on Thunder. It mostly just works and is still being actively developed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Seconding Thunder. It's my daily driver. Eternity is also nice if you want to quickly swipe through a bunch of posts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I cycled from all apps but keep ending in Summit. Yes I understand the FOSS attitude I really do but it all comes down to usability and UI and active development. Voyager and Eternity are my next options.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I use Thunder on IOS, but since it's cross-platform and assuming the experience is the same, I recommend Thunder.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I've never had this happen, does it need a special set of circumstances?

I get a similar glitch with all keyboards based on AOSP (openboard, etc), where pressing backspace randomly jumps back a few words

I eventually switched back to swiftkey because it was unbearable

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Basically when you press backspace the underline for autocorrect extends over the space before the word, then when you press backspace again it deletes that space. Every other press of backspace will delete the space before, completely messing up the text when you're just trying to make a minor correction. You then have the hassle of pixel hunting to get the cursor in the middle of the word where the space was to add it back again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ok my bad seems like I recalled incorrectly, your description fits exactly my experience. It's the keyboard

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I also have never seen that behavior. And even if, would it matter in any way how it handles the backspace key?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I was on Artemis and then Jerboa and now Thunder (probably a few others in between).

Artemis was going to be great but is no more, sadly.

Jerboa I just couldn't like. I think my biggest issue when I was using it was you could only search for community names? I can't remember exactly I just remember the difficulty searching was the last straw for me.

Thunder is great. I don't think I have any complaints. It works as I need it to and probably has a bunch of features that I don't use. It's pretty new still so I'm trying not to get too attached lol but it's updated pretty regularly, commenting works well, it allows you to preview before posting. Search seems to work great. I guess the only issue is the delay in notifications? Not really an issue for me but I guess if you're having a more immediate conversation in the comments it might be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They rule out the play store.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I've been using Eternity and I like it but it doesn't mean you would.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah I mean ultimately they should all end up with the same features, then it comes down to which UI you like the best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Thunder is fantastic. It's so good now. Lots of customizations, and it's actively being developed.

The markdown support is good, and spoiler tags are done right. It has it's own YouTube video player now, too.

The only issue I've found recently is superscripts rendering funny. Let me try one again.

This number should be a superscript^1^ more words.

Oh, it's working now. The other day or at putting a line break before the superscript.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Oh! Here's the ultimate test: [^1]

Can it handle Markdown citations???

[^1]: I wonder.

Even the website doesn't handle those quite right.

The links should scroll between the citation in the text and the definition at the bottom, while I actually wrote the citation immediately afterwards. The website scrolling doesn't quite work, but it does at least place the definitions all together at the bottom.[^2]

[^2]:I'm kind of just extending this comment now to make it more likely to scroll correctly on a phone.

View the source for fun.

Oh, maybe the website does handle it ok, it just doesn't quite work on the first click. Subsequent clicks seem to scroll correctly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Neat!

The content isn't long enough to scroll, and the superscript doesn't look like a link. Tapping it just collapses replies now that I've replied.

Tapping the little arrow doesn't collapse replies, so it's doing something. It might scroll up if your comment were long enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Good stuff hah. Thunder is in my trial group now anyway :)

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