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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since when did punk rock talk about politics 🀣

Since the dawn of punk rock? Read a poorly photocopied zine fer cryin' out loud. Half of the Dead Kennedys first album was about Dianne Feinstein or Jerry Brown and the political landscape of San Francisco. Literally every Bad Religion song is political. Let's not even get started on all the Brit punk that Thatcher inspired.

Relevant youtube link

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Correct. I grew up listening to all of that!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same same! Wait'll that guy finds out about Anti-Flag!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

wait'll they find out about henry rollins and black flag.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol. Have conservatives ever listened to Green Day? πŸ˜†

Like, who did they think American Idiot was about until that moment?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conservatives seem to interpret all musicians as conservatives until explicitly told otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

This is honestly a really telling factor to the conservative mindset. This concept really is all encompassing, as part of the reason they get so bewildered when you present an alternative idea is because in their mind, there is only one way and one right way.

The only nuance is personal preference, and even that sometimes isn't even an option. For example, talk to a conservative about coffee and see how they feel if you drink it a different way from them. sometimes it will be fine, and other times you'll get made fun of for daring to be different. But they don't seem to understand that preferences extend beyond what we imbibe.

I'm not sure why the concept of ethics is so different with this mentality, but it's something I've noticed pretty consistently.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago

Counterculture? In MY alt rock? How could this have possibly happened?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So they changed it from redneck to MAGA, and you felt fucking called out? They wrote a fucking ALBUM about how subsets of america are dooming everyone else during the Bush administration and you didn't fucking realize Green Day doesn't like conservativism and you went to their concerts and bought their music? Man WHAT THE FUCK ARE YALL OFFENDED BY!? THIS IS WHO GREEN DAY IS. THIS IS WHO THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN. THIS IS WHAT they've ALWAYS STOOD FOR.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Same kind of people who post this kind of shit

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lindsay Ellis did a really good video about how Green Day were the first ones to break America out of the jingoistic fever and into Bush-era protest music without the backlash that many others in the past felt (including Dixie Chicks).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think it helped that unlike the Dixie Chicks, conservatives didn’t make up a large portion of the Green Day fanbase. Conservatives were still very offended by American Idiot.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a way, this makes Dixie's Chicks' stance even braver

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It was. But I also don’t think they (she, originally) expected a comment in London to go viral.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had a Christian once tell me that Green Days songs were about God.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how you gotta stand up to Him? What the fuck does that even mean? All their songs are about how "hey, you can't just be telling people how to live like that. People are individuals with thoughts and ideas AND ALSO YES FARTS ARE FUNNY AND I'M TIRED OF PRETENDING LIKE THEY AREN'T"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was bewildered lol. Same guy thought Sweet Children was Billie Joe's choir endeavors.

Like, just cause BJA was in choir at age 10 doesn't mean he's making religious music lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Certain crowds can't fathom being any different from how you were raised up because They're too scared of being their authentic selves

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As the article points out, the original lyric from American Idiot is, "I'm not a part of a redneck agenda." They changed it to, "I'm not a part of a MAGA agenda."

...Can this even be considered a significant change? It's more like a modernization of the original language. Whose agenda did they think Green Day was previously referring-- oh, right. They probably didn't do any research, did they? It's just manufactured outrage, so they can pretend that the left is just as vile as they are.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

If anything they've gotten more specific with their language. They've made an adjustment in language to reflect there's rednecks out there who aren't on board for fascism. They're speaking about EXACTLY who they mean now

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Rednecks are poor workers its a classist term more than anything else. MAGA is Christofascism. They did good.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Fake outrage. Of course they know Green Day's punk rock and anti right-wing. They are just pretending to be outraged and playing the victim.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lyrics from Holiday by Green Day:

β€œThe representative from California has the floor. "Sieg Heil" to the president Gasman. Bombs away is your punishment. Pulverize the Eiffel towers. Who criticize your government.

"Bang! Bang!" goes the broken glass, and Kill all the fags that don't agree. Try to fight fire, setting fire. Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just 'cause (hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!) Just 'cause, because we're outlaws, yeah (hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!)β€œ

Green Day has never been really subtle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

conservatives don't get irony.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I could make a living writing and performing songs that outraged conservatives, I would do it too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

conservatives are still whining about the opening ceremonies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

damn i can't believe the band that wrote a song called american idiot for the anti bush album rock against bush wouldn't like conservative politics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Again? This was a headline in January as well. I guess people are gonna get mad every time they perform it now, and we'll get news stories every time people get mad.