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I watched oppenheimer in emacs, u watched it in imax, we are not the same

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Too bad Emacs doesn’t have a good text editor.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Modalka for me. It has exactly what you want and no more, which also makes it a lot easier to learn: useful for me that I'm not a programmer.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

eMacs takes a life time to learn, so the sooner you start, the longer it will take.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

Upvote just for "melon husk" 😂

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was another Twitler who tried to create an everything Reich.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Elon is racing him to see who can collapse a thousand-year social media platform the fastest

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Emacs is the GOAT computing environment.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I couldn't help but think of Emacs when I was reading A Constructive Look At TempleOS. It's like TempleOS that is actually finished, it just lacks kernel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just lacks kernel.

Sounds like a trademark of GNU tbh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GNU Hurd is going to be mainstream any minute now.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing. I have never seen that deep dive into templeOS before and it is a much more interesting OS than I anticipated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's pretty amazing system all things considered. It's kind of as if 8-bit home computer systems continued to evolve, but keep the same principles of being really closely tied to the HW and with very blurry line between kernel and user space. It radiates strong user ownership of the system. If you look at modern systems where you sometimes don't even get superuser privileges (for better of worse) it's quite a contrast.

Which is why it reminds me of Emacs so much. You can mess with most of the internals, there's no major separation between "Emacs-space" and userspace. There are these jokes about Emacs being OS, but it really does remind me of those early days of home computing where you could tinker with low level stuff and there were no guardrails or locks stopping you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I'm sure the port to TempleOS is being worked on as we speak

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Surely Elon would prefer the old Lucid fork, https://www.xemacs.org/

[–] AdmiralShat 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

An extremely extensible text editor, there's jokes that it can do literally anything, you can play music, watch video, etc.

It's often at war with the cult of vi and the church of emacs.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't forget us nanoites. The clearly superior text editor

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

nanoers just never figured out how to :wq

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you listen closely, you can still hear the terminal bells ringing of those that never managed to ESC

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They just said :wq in school, so thanks for the tip. Hard to believe it saves even when the file hasn't been changed if you use :wq. What is the use case for that? If the file gets changed in another program and you want to revert?? Edit: Just saw the comment about the modification times being updated.

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[–] drcobaltjedi 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't do a lot of text editing in terminal, but I used to have to at my last job and I always reached for nano and gave instructions fot nano since it's just pick up and use.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nano just feels sluggish as soon as you know vim keybindings. Emacs is a bit overkill for some quck edits, but nano is just to basic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

By "as soon as you know" you mean "as soon as you have put those bindings to muscle memory". Knowing them isn't really enough.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

alt.religion.emacs

Join us 👀

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You should really convert to helixism, the latest messianic update to the cult of vi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ill try it again when it support pulgins

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I mean it does support LSP, natively, I found that ultimately that's all the plugins I really need. It working out of the box and not requiring megabytes of configuration files is one of its great strengths.

If all you need is some customisation it's perfectly possible to write custom commands that execute sequences of commands. Including calling out to the shell and piping to and from external programs. Strictly static sequences though unlike the abomination that is vimscript they're not making keybindings a scripting language...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm a vim and emacs user for some decades already. I had this urge one day to try and work with helix. It kind of misses some things such as file manager or editorconfig support. Nine months later I'm still using helix. It still misses these things, but I really started to like how I don't need any plugins to work with it and I need about five lines of configuration to have a usable editor. Probably going to continue using it.

And it is written in Rust, which is my main language and I can just jump in to the editor source and fix things if needed.

I miss magit and org from emacs a lot though. Every time I need to write an article, I do it in emacs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's probably this, for all of you whou didn't know Helix before, like me: https://helix-editor.com/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Indeed. Make sure to start it with hx --tutor the first time around so you know how to quit :)

And no matter what you do when giving it a try do it in a time and place where you can go at least a week without vi as the command grammar is close yet different enough to completely confuse your muscle memory, you don't want to mix them up (helix uses a strict selection-action command set so you get 'wd' instead of 'dw' and stuff).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Esc-Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift

[–] aport 8 points 2 years ago

A self-documenting, extensible lisp computing environment that uses text buffers as its main data format.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which video player did you use?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

im a vim user, i dont usually put videos players in my text editor

otherwise, i use mpv for desktop

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's possible to watch videos in the terminal as ASCII art with both vlc and mplayer, by the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

mpv --vo=tct

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[–] victron 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Late 30s dev here: I've never cared to learn emacs or vim, tried when younger, but left it. Am I a fraud?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to be a vim fan but now I only use it for modifying files over SSH. Other than that I code with an IDE, you can't beat all the plugins and linters with a in-terminal editor. A colleague still codes in emacs and its code is dirty af.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

A colleague still codes in emacs and its code is dirty af.

PEBKAC - don't blame emacs (not sure why anyone would use it when vim exists, though)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] derpgon 9 points 2 years ago

It's an iMac with electronics in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's like a Big Mac but with emu meat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ain't that one of them Mortal Kombat fighters?

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