If the products or "products" being withheld are deemed useful by their users, you're bound to have someone filling the gap created by the butthurt tech giants leaving. Without all the associated data vulturing.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2024
253 points (97.7% liked)
Technology
58303 readers
30 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Capitalism at its best
I wouldn't say "capitalism", given that some of the alternatives filling the gap to be non-commercial in nature.
Free market economy at its best
If we're really lucky, those replacements might even become competition for the original products outside the EU, and drive the data vultures out of business.
(Something has to go right in this timeline eventually, right?)
load more comments
(1 replies)
What’s the easiest EU country to emigrate to?
If you have no human principles, Hungary. You just have to buy some papers for it. Maybe learn a hard and useless language. But definitely love corruption and the suffering of other humans.
This is not true. You need to have years of presence OR have Hungarian ancestry and a few years less presence OR be married to a Hungarian for a couple years. Top this off with being able to know the Hungarian language.
Not if you buy the letelepedési kötvény (immigration bonds).
Other countries have a similar system. Canada for example has the Start-up Visa, which requires about C$225k investment, or the Quebec one (now suspended) which required C$1.25m over five years.
From what I can tell, the Hungarian requires somewhere between 200 and 300k EUR. This is not something that is affordable or easy to attain for the average lemmy poster. But again, this also does not guarantee citizenship, just residency.
In short, requesting a work or study visa and then trying for the citizenship test five years later, after having learned the language, is probably a much more attainable way. But still far from the easiest country to emigrate to.
load more comments
(8 replies)
This is more bark than bite, imo. They're just threatening to withhold products at this point, but as the article points out:
- Europe's a big market and profit focused companies aren't going to give that up just to make a point
- Those that do will just encourage European competition to step up and fill whatever gaps might appear, which is just fine by the EU.
So... go right ahead. Let's see how this really plays out.
And the products they are threatening to withhold are exactly the products we don't want. Last time the tech giants threatened to leave entirely the EU asked when to plan the going away party. The current tactic from the giants isn't much better
Same argument for any case where cooperations bitch and whine about regulations.
"Don't threaten me with a good time"
"Meta has decided not to release a new multimodal AI model and related products in the EU.
The move follows a similar decision last month by Apple to withhold its new Apple Intelligence features from Europe."
Oh no. Wait. Come back.
wow so they're holding back on wasteful broken products?Seems like win win
You're tearing me apart lisa!
-
Apple reversed log standing design policy to put a USB C charger in the iPhone because not selling iPhones in Europe was not a financially viable option.
-
Apple won't launch their AI features in Europe because changing to comply with regulations is too hard
These features aren't that important then I guess?
This is a total win for Europeans.
Bring more Europe to the US. Lol
Sounds like it's working to me.
Zuckbot, comply with GDPR or forget about EU.
In this case I think it’s the DMA they’re butthurt about.
The article mentions both. Meta is still complaining about GDPR.
Really hope so.
We don't want your shitty products :)
Corpo propaganda at it again...
I
You might think that but you're missing cool thing like, ah.. the metaverse..?
If your "product" is stealing my information for your "AI" or extorting me to buy "dongles", then please "withhold" it.
oh no, not the products!
Oh.... no... please.... do not do that...
Anyways
Oh dear, how sad, never mind
Threatening a dog with a weiner I see. That's a bold strategy.
Oh no! Anyway...
Could they withhold their existence while we're at it?..
It’s too bad the websites that do this don’t have to put a label on it in the U.S. Something like “Not for consumption in the E.U.” to make people wonder what’s going on.
I’m struggling with this as a website operator. I don’t have any third-party tracking, no external assets, nothing and I’m dying to put up a cookie banner stating as such even though it’s totally unnecessary and annoying.
You do not have to put up a cookie banner when you are only using technically required ones ornnone at all. Make a dedicated cookies page in your footer and have a table with every cookie, their name, their description and use as well as how long they last.
If you have none, put that info on that page. All you need to do.
That’s what I was saying: that it isn’t required but it would be nice to advertise I’m not doing anything shady.
Great advice on the cookie listing page though. I haven’t considered that.
USA only wishes we were this cool.
This just in: good time threatened. O no
Nice! Thank you EU for the GDPR!
For the next step, please let the companies that produce software be held accountable for damages. For Nonprofits change the target to associated companies. Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries. If the library was insufficiently supported by the developer, then the developer has no ground to sue for damages themselves.
Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries.
What??
load more comments
(1 replies)
This escalation will continue,
until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:
They will simply say something like:
"Either your government removes laws, regulations, accountability, etc, from us,
XOR we are hamstringing your country: we OWN you, we POSSESS you, & you will obey OUR rule."
I guarantee this will be happening between now & 2036.
Remember how they can ratchet-up a genocide, anywhere??
They've already done so, in some places..
( Facebook & .. was it Myanmar? as 1 example )
_ /\ _
until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:
You think governments are resisting?
load more comments
(2 replies)
I upvoted purely for using xor in regular speech
view more: next ›