I don't know how the government will be able to effectively ban E2EE and honestly I want to see them try
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100%? Impossible. But they can effectively ban it.
Pass a law that makes any US company, or company doing business in the US, not allowed to host E2EE-enabled apps. This now bans them from the App Store and Play Store. 99% of users won't find or choose to side-load for android users. Then they can make E2EE actually illegal to distribute in the US. They'll almost never bother going after individuals, but this effectively makes hosting a US-based website unable to distribute E2EE programs. So people will need to use foreign sites. Which the US can force ISPs to block via a whack-a-mole on individual sites.
This isn't very likely, but hell Congress was decently close to banning TikTok for no real reason so who knows?
It seems like the great firewall in china, really scary times for the freedom of the web
More like the midly warm pot, as vpns will still be legal
https://mashable.com/article/montana-tiktok-ban-what-to-know
Montana's GOP didn't get the memo that it's a stupid idea.
its like banning math
Tories are just trying to kick up as much shit as possible before they're kicked out so they can blame the next party for the fallout.
Seems like something politicians who have not touched a computer would try to pass
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Guess I'll just have to touch grass.
Google, try pulling data from me being at the park when my phone gets left at home!
Facial recognition go brrrAmazon Ring cameras: Hello
What's cloudflare done?
Cloudflare has human checks before you can access some sites. Some apps and screenreaders no longer work with those sites.
They can also read the traffic that goes to websites.
Use noc.org if you need a CDN.
Not only apps and screenreaders. Some legit browsers too.
I have a browser that basically does not let the website know what or who it is ( user agent is a random number ) and cloudflare just flat out refuses me from viewing websites.
Fine cloudflare hosted website, keep your secrets!
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They're all uppity that to use cloudflare proxy they have to terminate the ssl connection there. So technically cloudflare can sniff all the traffic. But that's kind of the point of WAFs and Reverse Proxies.
I would argue that the sheer amount of data throughput that Cloudflare has, you'd have to really be on a list to be monitored... and they certainly cannot just log all data willy nilly.
I suppose this one is quite simple. How can they cache, if they don't MitM the connection? I don't think it would be technically possible. If you want the cache/CDN you just need to use a company you trust. If you don't trust them then you don't get the cache/CDN.
Correct. But people are viewing the DDOS protection, Cache, WAF, etc... functions as evidence that Cloudflare is obviously malicious and storing 100% of all data traversing them.
I've seen no evidence of that yet, and will certainly discontinue use of them if they show such tendencies. Until then, I will absolutely leverage their platform for my use as a paying customer.
I do understand the fear with their free platform though... They've gotta make money somehow, and I feel there's probably a fear that is data collection.
No high-profile cases yet, but some people are already concerned: https://crimeflare.eu.org/
Doesn't load, maybe they need Cloudflare lol (i'm joking don't send me to internet hell) Wayback doesn't seem to work with it either
I might be missing something but the document seems to be comparing Cloudflare to the great firewall of China and calling them criminal because of things they could potentially do?
Only works on http, and just redirects to https://0xacab.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/blob/master/README.md
It would help if that site wouldn't look like it was written by some crazy person trying to make a shitpost...
Site appears to be down. What is this for?
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If your cock looks like that call a doctor
What about a fully encrypted peer to peer web?
Let's go Veilid!
Yeah I cheer on this one!
On the other hand I got a different protocol (& implementation up and running) that can be used right away. It's like IPFS but easy to "install" (a double click and a port forward is all that's needed), you are also in control of your data and of course you can change the data without changing the link.
Don't get me wrong, IPFS paved the road. But today we have better ways to do things.
Like freenet?
Close, but with the added possibility to change the data (like a website/blog/chat) and not only have static data.
So on this protocol, you can have a website with a link to my website, who has a link to yours. Maybe that doesn't sound crazy cool :-) but filecoin, IPFS etc just does not have that functionality (with them you have a key/link, and it is locked to 1 data. Fix a typo in your text and you have to redistribute a new key/link on the old web or similar, it's totally static), and for me it's a must if you want to provide a functioning "new web".
In the end you need a DNS that blocks all tracking...
PiHole ftw!
Only gets the job done when you are at home or have a constant VPN to your home.
AdGuard or NextDNS ftw!
If you're tech savvy enough to set up PiHole you can also set up a Wireguard VPN.
Yes i know but just using NextDNS is way more convenient and less expensive (especially when a raspberry pi computers are 100€ and above in your area...)
I just use a DigitalOcean VPS. $6+tax a month, plus some other self-hosted services. Don't have to worry about being connected to home or buying a Pi. Still may be more expensive, but not by much (only $4-$6 more expensive depending on how much you use the internet), but this also allows you to setup your own DNS if you want as well.
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Price is not really a factor, as you already have a machine running PiHole. Never tried NextDNS, but I can't imagine it being easier than Wireguard.
Does something like Wireguard increase traffic? I'm thinking if it'd make problems for when you have low connectivity and bandwidth.
You don’t even need to be tech savvy. Tailscale is one click simple.
You can set the DNS for your device as well
Web DRM could in theory ban this
And every government in the world that isn't insane would in theory ban web drm
I don't doubt that at least the EU certainly would, but will they be fast enough to prevent irreversible damage?
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