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[–] [email protected] 222 points 4 months ago (7 children)

They work in tech, promotions are achieved by moving employers. Internal mobility is always terrible in tech companies.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 4 months ago

Very much this. I have never switched employers and not received a sizable salary bump in the process. This isn't quite "don't threaten me with a good time" territory, but it's not far removed from it.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. It's the same fucked-up psychology corps use for their customers. Like running ads for super discounts for new customers. Existing customers that have never missed a payment? Fuck-em. Instead of giving 1% "thank you" for good customers, corps would rather lose the good customers and pay a premium to find new ones.

So it goes.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Yuuuup lowest pay bump I have gotten was 10k highest was over 50k with the potential of a bonus. I got low balled for a long years and am now like pay me. Wish I would have seen/known my worth long ago before getting taken advantage of

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[–] [email protected] 191 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dell announced a new return-to-office initiative earlier this year. In the new plan, workers had to classify themselves as remote or hybrid.

Those who classified themselves as hybrid are subject to a tracking system that ensures they are in a physical office 39 days a quarter, which works out to close to three days per work week.

Alternatively, by classifying themselves as remote, workers agree they can no longer be promoted or hired into new roles within the company.

Holy corporate oppression, Batman! That's a shitty deal no matter which option you choose.

I'm glad they've got themselves into a sticky situation.

Also, this observation was funny (in a sad way):

One person said they'd spoken with colleagues who had chosen to go hybrid, and those colleagues reported doing work in mostly empty offices punctuated with video calls with people who were in other mostly empty offices.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 4 months ago

One major downside of hybrid working really is that if you are having a meeting where even a single person is not there, then the entire meeting may as well be a video call. If you are on a video call, then why do you need to be in the office for it?

At my job we work with physical objects, so being in office is a requirement at least part of the time, but if I'm just going to be in meetings for most of the day, there is no way I'm going into the office just to sit on video calls all day.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And Dell said “Great, thanks, saved us a ton on severance packages and allowed us to replace our high paid tenured employees with hungry graduates who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts”

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Truth.

Been job hunting in similar fields for a while and as a middle-aged person, I simply cannot get a callback from any of these companies, then when you actually visit them and see some of their workforce, you rarely see anyone over late-20's, and it's all these high-energy, eager-to-please, eager-to-work-for-recognitionbucks, fresh-outta-college kids who can be exploited and turned over rapidly.

I am job hunting because the previous company I managed was bought out, downsized, and all the senior employees making more than entry level wages were cut. This is happening everywhere.

More and more technology, overseas outsourcing options, and general service/gig systems for filling job openings has left companies treating workers as disposable as toilet paper.

This is because almost every business is now part of a huge chain of ownership, and the shareholders at the top, groups of very rich old white dudes, just gather together in their hooded cloaks and look at the bars and graphs every month and decide what investments are to be amputated, and which to be kept. Before going back to their private sex islands.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

High paying jobs with tons of new graduates have an oversaturated supply problem. It's no surprise that when people figure out that becoming a software developer is easy street to 150k+++ WFH that there was a huge rush to get those jobs... now that there are TONS and TONS of young junior devs there is no shortage to hire someone for near minimum wage.

Why pay 400k for a senior developer when you can hire a mid-level for ~100k to be a manager, and 4 juniors for 60k a piece, and augment them with chatgpt to help them learn what they are skill gapped by.

Plus junior devs are so desperate you can force them to come into the office, something the dev divas ten years ago refused to do back when there was a huge shortage of coders.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Absolutely correct, I watched this happen to our tech team before I was also thrown in the chipper.

And it doesn't help that a lot of the young people trying to get into coding and tech fields are not what you would call titans of confidence and charisma, these are mostly introverted and thoughtful people who have studied most of their lives under the belief that meritocracy exists, and they can prove themselves in the business world by doing great work and being a good employee.

Meanwhile glance over at the sales side of the building and there are people there making six figures a year who do next to nothing but party and tell lewd jokes, but are absolutely invulnerable to layoffs and downsizing as long as they can talk to clients and joke about sports with the CEO.

The disillusionment around the business world is real and unsustainable.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts

...while having no idea what they are doing

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's not this quarter's problem, silly!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's the next CEOs problem.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Friends don't let bosses purchase Dell computers.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When I got hired at my job where I could write and dictate policy, the first thing I did was write up a new IT Purchasing Policy with a "Banned Manufacturers" section right up top with HP right at #1 and Dell at #2

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What did you prefer? Lenovo?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Lately, Lenovo. It was Asus and Lenovo, but lately they've been shitting the bed IMO. And MSI is about to join HP and Dell if I have to replace one more of their damn shitty ass fans

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Considering that HP is the other choice that most businesses consider, I'd take the Dell 100% of the time. HP's laptops are complete and utter trash.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Lenovo is at the top of the enterprise devices game right now. I always say they operate in cycles and usually each brand trades every 2 years who is at number one.

I still will always shit on HP. And HPE Aruba switches are absolutely trash.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Anyone want to start a company. Work from home. We'll split profits among ourselves. We can. Build blackjack lottery machines and webhookers

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I will start developing the webhookers!

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

we should fucking hope. Might catch on

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lolbruh. Go ahead and tell me to go to the office 5 days. I’ll peace the fuck out.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If this country cared about the environment or workers' safety, they'd fine companies who make employees work in the office/on site when they could work from home instead.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how many people die every year commuting to jobs they could have done from home

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As intended. A Layoff by any other name...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

That's consistent with my office, plus a hiring freeze so nobody new coming in.

Fortunately, for me, my cardiologist told them to pound sand. Working from home now since 2018.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

what a stupid hill to die on

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