~~Anybody know who the original author is?~~
Original artist is Adam Ellis, here's his Instagram.
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2024
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Yay thank you. I don't like posting stuff like this without attribution and my image searches just kept turning up imgur and reddit links
I'll be honest, I just went into the comments of one of those reddit links and scrolled down until I saw someone share the artist's name :P
Ah, I couldn't be arsed after a couple of links because I got tired copy-pasting the link and then changing reddit.com to https://redlib.kittywi.re/ – my whole IP range is banned from reddit for whatever reason so I can't browse it without redlib even if I was so inclined. Well at least without an account, which I don't have.
LibRedirect extension my friend
Should have figured there's an extension. I try to avoid reddit as much as I can so I haven't looked into redlib extensions – keeping it painful to use means I end up there much less from web searches
They think they can insulate themselves by grifting enough dough by being a professional "one of the good ones"
Yeah could well be, in addition to a case of "surely the leopards won't eat my face"
It’s a super risky strategy. If you win the outcome lottery then you’ll be accepted as one of the good ones.
But it’s a lot more likely that you’ll be arrested too after having made the lives of everybody like you worse.
Humans decisions being a statistical distribution will have some people who can’t properly make this risk calculation.
It’s the same energy as women siding with the misogynists.
Ignorant straight cisgendered ally question- Is this really a thing? Is there a wedge between sexuality and gender advocacy?
The majority of conservative cis LGB folk think that their version of queerness is ok, but other types are not. Anti trans LGB folk are one version of this
That’s awful. Just enough acceptance for them, and fuck everyone else. It must take a complete lack of empathy.
You see it even more often if you're otherkin.
I’m sure. People listen to me because I’m a straight white man, whether I deserve their attention or not, so I leverage that to support people who are oppressed.
I speak out against hate of every kind. I ask questions like this because it’s important to know where it comes from to determine the appropriate response. This I didn’t see or expect, but it makes sense now that it’s been described. I appreciate the explanation.
Often it's fear. They think if they're a perfect, respectable minority, they can appeal to the kindness of queerphobes and win rights through sympathy. Sometimes it's even trauma. Gay guy is used to being called a girl for his gayness, and is triggered to see a trans woman willingly taking that on. Or trans person is used to hearing helicopter copypastas and thinks otherkin are conservative trolls. In both cases, they're used to being attacked with the idea of more marginalised queers, and think they can switch sides to the oppressor's corner if they disavow the smaller minority
That’s incredibly enlightening. You’re very insightful. Thank you.
Thank you. If you really want to do a lot for minorities, become a soulist. http://soulism.net
We’re not free until we’re all free. People won’t have any rights if they only fight for their own.
Soulism is for the liberation of gay, bisexual, asexual, trans, nonbinary, intersex, and every other queer identity. Soulism is for justice, sovereignty, and flourishing of black, indigenous, multiracial, immigrant, and global-south communities. Soulism is for additional options for divergent, disabled, disordered, and ill persons in either a recovery of their own will, or a life of their own choosing. Soulism is for the recognition and acceptance of otherkin, plural systems, and members of new religious movements and cults. Implementation of soulist ideas, including the ideas shared by the broader spectrum of anarchist thinking, will help everyone by giving everyone freedom of life and reality, but those most disadvantaged will most benefit.
Thanks for this!
It must take a complete lack of empathy.
That was already stated. "Conservative" cis LGB folk.
I've never met one of these people... I feel like they must be a monitority of the minority, right?
I'm not sure where you live, but I've definitely encountered them in my extremely conservative state. Even here, they're a small group though.
Even being a small group, I feel like it's still a problem because hate groups like the Republican Party can parade them around when convenient (until they are no longer useful -- then see comic in post).
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Unlike what some commenters have said, it's absolutely not just "a Twitter thing". Eg. one of Finland's new MEPs is exactly this sort of person; a gay man dating an immigrant, but who belongs to an extremist right-wing party. He hates trans people, and like all conservative LGBT+ folks he is so oblivious that he apparently completely misses the fact that were his party to actually have their way, they would literally murder him for not being straight, and at best deport his boyfriend if they didn't send him to the same extermination camp
One of the most prominent politicians of the far right AfD in Germany, which was too extreme for the right block in the EU, is also a lesbian with an immigrant wife.
Utterly ignorant and just absolutely wasting what little privilege was bought with the lives of queer people up to this moment.
That’s contemptible. I can’t imagine what it must be like to act against your own interests with such conviction. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Yeah, I have a gay buddy who is very supportive of most aspects of LGBTQI+ but HATES when people try to make kinks part of what he believes the culture is. "Leather harnesses, Fursuits and getting your dick or tits out in public has nothing to do with being gay."
Which I kind of get, but more historically speaking is also kind of wack because straight kink communities were some of the earliest supporters of gay rights. Gay peoples opinions like a rainbow are also a broad spectrum.
I think the important thing is to just realize that you can be accepting of something even if you don't personally want to be involved with it. And on the flip side, some people just don't want to be a part of certain groups, and that's OK too.
its basically a twitter thing but there are people like riley gaines who bleed out into real life and work for ron desantis pushing culture wars
Gotcha. Thanks!
I wouldn't say there's a widespread thing, but I've definitely known people like the one depicted in the comic.
Similar to how TERFs proclaim to be feminist while simultaneously rejecting trans women.
These people make no sense to me at all.
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these people know nothing. In a religious anti lgbt demonstration in Turkey some of the more fundamentalist groups started a fight with casual conservatives for playing their music too loud cause they deemed it was inappropriate. lol.
Isn't it transphobic to lump drag queens and trans people together?
Sure is.
Both of the characters in this comic are transphobic, though.
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i would assume the artist is mocking the terfs and transphobic l's and g's who got in on the "save the children" nonsense
Transphobic legislation usually doesn't make the distinction, because, you see, it's transphobic legislation.
Yep. If they ban drag performance, and don't recognize trans identity as valid, then trans people presenting as their gender would be considered "in drag." Merely going out in public would be criminalized, which is the point. They want extermination, but will take disappearance in the meantime.
Yes and no. Obviously, trans and drag are two different things, but they are hated for the same reason: transgressing gender normativity and especially showing it's OK for AMAB persons to have and display characteristics traditionally assigned to femininity.
So yes, equating trans with drag is wrong for all reasons, but this doesn't make this cartoon transphobic, only realistic.
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For some extra background on the absurdity of the Drop the T nonsense, Caelan Conrad and Sarah Oeffler have this amazing video: https://youtu.be/6i91PzpWDAM?si=cdXLbhBOA39Zxg77
Just gonna come in here and drop an over two hour video without a note? Woof
I'll link Cody's Showdy anytime I want, personally.
What kind of progressive doesn't watch hour long video essays?
Hour? That's short. Feature length minimum
Sometimes I want something light as a breather between 9hr Garfield retrospectives
Neurodivergent progressives who need quiet sources of information that they can browse at their leisure 🥲
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It might have been interesting to see the L/G person being “taken away” at the end by a person of color. I haaate the way people are continuing to victimize both trans and drag people, and for anyone who doesn’t remember, the 80s and 90s were pretty much just like this for gays in the west. Gays in eastern and conservative cultures are still repressed and suppressed right now. I also hate that I myself harbored a misconception of drag queens until recently. I know at least that the face eating leopards are not on my side.
The early gay rights movement was mostly advanced by the work of trans people too, which makes it all the more worse.
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