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Ignorant straight cisgendered ally question- Is this really a thing? Is there a wedge between sexuality and gender advocacy?
The majority of conservative cis LGB folk think that their version of queerness is ok, but other types are not. Anti trans LGB folk are one version of this
That’s awful. Just enough acceptance for them, and fuck everyone else. It must take a complete lack of empathy.
You see it even more often if you're otherkin.
I’m sure. People listen to me because I’m a straight white man, whether I deserve their attention or not, so I leverage that to support people who are oppressed.
I speak out against hate of every kind. I ask questions like this because it’s important to know where it comes from to determine the appropriate response. This I didn’t see or expect, but it makes sense now that it’s been described. I appreciate the explanation.
Often it's fear. They think if they're a perfect, respectable minority, they can appeal to the kindness of queerphobes and win rights through sympathy. Sometimes it's even trauma. Gay guy is used to being called a girl for his gayness, and is triggered to see a trans woman willingly taking that on. Or trans person is used to hearing helicopter copypastas and thinks otherkin are conservative trolls. In both cases, they're used to being attacked with the idea of more marginalised queers, and think they can switch sides to the oppressor's corner if they disavow the smaller minority
That’s incredibly enlightening. You’re very insightful. Thank you.
Thank you. If you really want to do a lot for minorities, become a soulist. http://soulism.net
We’re not free until we’re all free. People won’t have any rights if they only fight for their own.
Thanks for this!
That was already stated. "Conservative" cis LGB folk.
I've never met one of these people... I feel like they must be a monitority of the minority, right?
I'm not sure where you live, but I've definitely encountered them in my extremely conservative state. Even here, they're a small group though.
Even being a small group, I feel like it's still a problem because hate groups like the Republican Party can parade them around when convenient (until they are no longer useful -- then see comic in post).
Can confirm, trans-exclusionary gay/bi people are fucking everywhere in (rural) Georgia in the US. I think the ones who are out who are "anti-trans" outnumber the normal ones.
Unlike what some commenters have said, it's absolutely not just "a Twitter thing". Eg. one of Finland's new MEPs is exactly this sort of person; a gay man dating an immigrant, but who belongs to an extremist right-wing party. He hates trans people, and like all conservative LGBT+ folks he is so oblivious that he apparently completely misses the fact that were his party to actually have their way, they would literally murder him for not being straight, and at best deport his boyfriend if they didn't send him to the same extermination camp
One of the most prominent politicians of the far right AfD in Germany, which was too extreme for the right block in the EU, is also a lesbian with an immigrant wife.
Utterly ignorant and just absolutely wasting what little privilege was bought with the lives of queer people up to this moment.
That’s contemptible. I can’t imagine what it must be like to act against your own interests with such conviction. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Yeah, I have a gay buddy who is very supportive of most aspects of LGBTQI+ but HATES when people try to make kinks part of what he believes the culture is. "Leather harnesses, Fursuits and getting your dick or tits out in public has nothing to do with being gay."
Which I kind of get, but more historically speaking is also kind of wack because straight kink communities were some of the earliest supporters of gay rights. Gay peoples opinions like a rainbow are also a broad spectrum.
I think the important thing is to just realize that you can be accepting of something even if you don't personally want to be involved with it. And on the flip side, some people just don't want to be a part of certain groups, and that's OK too.
its basically a twitter thing but there are people like riley gaines who bleed out into real life and work for ron desantis pushing culture wars
Gotcha. Thanks!
I wouldn't say there's a widespread thing, but I've definitely known people like the one depicted in the comic.
Similar to how TERFs proclaim to be feminist while simultaneously rejecting trans women.
These people make no sense to me at all.
TERFs will also straight-up join with anti-feminists. It's okay to be anti-choice, anti-gay, "socially conservative," whatever. Despite yelling about how they're protecting women, none of that matters so long as they hate the same people.
As with any civil rights movement, there's always a sect of "got mine" people who want to pull up the ladder when they get what they want. So it was when bisexuality was becoming more recognized (yes really, look up forums of gay people saying they wouldn't date someone who was bi), and asexuality, and that's not even touching the gender identity side of things. Now that they feel relatively comfortable, they want all those upstarts to settle down so we can all live in "peace".