Technology

In the interest of transparency, I don't know if this guy is telling the truth, but it feels very plausible.

The solution to the problem is to just pull the plug on the AI search bullshit until it is actually helpful.

Good. Nothing will get us through the hype cycle faster than obvious public failure. Then we can get on with productive uses.

If you can't fix it, then get rid of it, and don't bring it back until we reach a time when it's good enough to not cause egregious problems (which is never, so basically don't ever think about using your silly Gemini thing in your products ever again)

Since when has feeding us misinformation been a problem for capitalist parasites like Pichai?

Misinformation is literally the first line of defense for them.

Here's a solution: don't make AI provide the results. Let humans answer each other's questions like in the good old days.

Has No Solution for Its AI Providing Wildly Incorrect Information

Don't use it??????

AI has no means to check the heaps of garbage data is has been fed against reality, so even if someone were to somehow code one to be capable of deep, complex epistemological analysis (at which point it would already be something far different from what the media currently calls AI), as long as there's enough flat out wrong stuff in its data there's a growing chance of it screwing it up.

Wow, in the 2000's and 2010's google my impression was that this is an amazing company where brilliant people work to solve big problems to make the world a better place. In the last 10 years, all I was hoping for was that they would just stop making their products (search, YouTube) worse.

Now they just blindly riding the AI hype train, because "everyone else is doing AI".

and our parents told us Wikipedia couldn't be trusted....

Replace the CEO with an AI. They're both good at lying and telling people what they want to hear, until they get caught

"It's broken in horrible, dangerous ways, and we're gonna keep doing it. Fuck you."

The best part of all of this is that now Pichai is going to really feel the heat of all of his layoffs and other anti-worker policies. Google was once a respected company and place where people wanted to work. Now they're just some generic employer with no real lure to bring people in. It worked fine when all he had to do was increase the prices on all their current offerings and stuff more ads, but when it comes to actual product development, they are hopelessly adrift that it's pretty hilarious watching them flail.

You can really see that consulting background of his doing its work. It's actually kinda poetic because now he'll get a chance to see what actually happens to companies that do business with McKinsey.

Step 1. Replace CEO with AI. Step 2. Ask New AI CEO, how to fix. Step 3. Blindly enact and reinforce steps

Rip up the Reddit contract and don’t use that data to train the model. It’s the definition of a garbage in garbage out problem.

these hallucinations are an "inherent feature" of  AI large language models (LLM), which is what drives AI Overviews, and this feature "is still an unsolved problem”.

Then what made you think it’s a good idea to include that in your product now?!

So if a car maker releases a car model that randomly turns abruptly to the left for no apparent reason, you simply say "I can't fix it, deal with it"? No, you pull it out of the market, try to fix it and, if this it is not possible, then you retire the model before it kills anyone.

If you train your AI to sound right, your AI will excel at sounding right. The primary goal of LLMs is to sound right, not to be correct.

Media needs to stop calling this AI. There is no intelligence here.

The content generator models know how to put probabilistic tokens together. It has no ability to reason.

It is a currently unsolvable problem to evaluate text to determine if it's factual..until we have artificial general intelligence.

AI will not be able to act like real AI until we solve real AI. That is the currently open problem.

This is so wild to me... as a software engineer, if my software doesn't work 100% of the time as requested in the specification, it fails tests, doesn't get released and I get told to fix all issues before going live.

AI is basically another word for unrealiable software full of bugs.

Have they tried not using it? 🤦

I mean they could disable it until it works, else it's knowingly misleading people

How about stop forcing it on us?

Google CEO essentially says the first result should not be trusted.

TBH this is surprisingly honest.

Maybe if you can't get it to be accurate you shouldn't be trying to insert it into everything.

The answer is dont inflate your stock price by cramming the latest tech du jour in to your flagship product... but we all know thats not an option.

This is what happens every time society goes along with tech bro hype. They just run directly into a wall. They are the embodiment of "Didn't stop to think if they should" and it's going to cause a lot of problems for humanity.

I think we should stop calling things AI unless they actually have their own intelligence independent of human knowledge and training.

I have a solution: stop using their search engine to begin with and slowly replace everything else google you use.

There is apparently no limit to calling a bug a feature

I know an easy fix. Just don't do ai.

The model literally ate The Onion, and now they can't get it to throw it back up.

They polluted their model with the sewage of the Internet.

The only worse thing they could have done is base their entire LLM dataset on 4chan.

So you have a product that you've made into a system for getting answers. And then you couldn't be bothered to try and sanitize training data enough to get your answer system's new headline feature from spreading blatantly incorrect information? If it doesn't work, maybe don't ship it.

Then it sounds like the "web" tab should be the default and the AI Overview should be the optional tab the user has to choose to go click on.

That's ok, we were already used to not getting what we wanted from your search and are already working on replacing you since you opted to replace yourselves with advertising instead of information, the role you were supposed to fulfill which you betrayed.

die in ignominy. Open source is the only way forward.