“The Oregon/Idaho line was established 163 years ago and is now outdated,”

Either accept that earlier laws can be outdated and reinstate Roe v. Wade, or suck it up, ya hypocrites.

So they want to change their identity based on the feelings and bend existing geo roles to match?

Then move to Idaho you stupid jerks.

Wasn't it determined last time that if they did this, Idaho would have to pay Oregon because of how land law works. So they would have to get Idaho to agree to this and dought they will.

Could always go with the classic, “iF YOu dON’t LiKE iT, lEaVe.”

Read “we don’t like black people and the continuing cultural legacy of how our white ancestors (and us now) destroyed their ability to have good education and jobs and the social issues that creates and now we’re running away from the problem”.

Uh huh…

We laugh but the right is continually pushing and shouting and more and more frequently, winning. It sucks.

And does Idaho want these, presumably poor rural and stupid, counties?

I'm getting Brexit vibes

"In 1844, Bush and his family (along with five other families including his friend Michael Simmons, totaling 31 people) left Missouri, heading west on the Oregon Trail.[11] Bush's navigation skills and knowledge of the western region, gained during his years as a trapper, made him the indispensable guide of the party. Isabella's training as a nurse was an important contribution as well. Bush and his family were also known to be very generous, purchasing supplies for their fellow travelers first in Missouri and later at great expense at Fort Bridger. Bush bought six Conestoga wagons, equipping them with enough provisions for a year, and helped several families make the trip to Oregon.[3] According to the Bush family history, Bush built a false bottom onto his wagon in which he hid over a hundred pounds of silver, worth about $2,000.[3] The great-granddaughter of Bush claims that Bush had hidden $5,000 in silver dollars, some gold bricks, and fifty dollar slugs.[12] With him he brought many species of fruit and shade trees that he would plant in his farm at Bush Prairie.[13]

By the time the Bush-Simmons party reached the Oregon Country over four months later, the Provisional Government of Oregon reacting to racially-charged violence [my edit, love the kid gloves being used for violent white supremacists here :( ] had passed an exclusionary law barring black persons, slave or free, from entering the Oregon Territory on penalty of lashing. As a result, Bush and his party traveled north across the Columbia River, into territory that at the time was claimed by both the United States and Great Britain. The wagon path they laboriously cut would become the northern spur of the Oregon Trail.[14] Bush's connections with the Hudson's Bay Company at Fort Vancouver may have helped the settlers gain access where the company had previously barred Americans from settling"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_(pioneer)

Oregon, 2000 miles is still not far enough of a wagon ride to escape white supremacy

Do you think Oregon could put that on their license plates?

https://www.kuow.org/stories/george-bush-the-black-pioneer-who-founded-tumwater

George Bush's family outside their home in Tumwater Washingon, thankfully far enough from white supremacists to start a decent life. I wonder how Bush and his family would feel knowing Oregon is still overflowing with white supremacist bigots?

Idaho ain't that big of a cultural difference from the large land owning demographic of hateful rightwing clowns in Oregon, which is not a compliment to Oregon.

Oh! So now you know (sort of) what it’s like living as a Progressive in Houston or New Orleans! Just wait until they start the voter suppression/gerrymandering! /s

Decided to do some fact checking on the crime claims. Oregon is in the top 10 for crime rate, while Idaho sits at 4th. If you did further into statistics, they're pretty close to equal on violent crime, while Oregon has much higher property crime and robberies.

I haven't delved into the socio economic reasons for it, the policy differences or any of the causes of the difference. I live in western Oregon and enjoy the culture and freedom here, although I also don't like the massive property crime rates. I recently moved due to property crime. Went from various crimes being perpetrated either where I lived or on my street to zero.

As an PNW resident, I would like eastern Washington and eastern Oregon to merge into a single state, perhaps into Idaho, and let western Washington and western Oregon merge into another state.

Western Maryland has tried several times to secede to West Virginia. They could never afford it, and West Virginia can't either. I imagine it is the same situation here.