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[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

those running Facebook groups routinely find that their content isn’t even being shown to those who choose to follow them thanks to Meta’s outright abusive approach to social media where the customer is not only wrong, but should ideally have little control over what they see.

inhales deeply YOU ARE NOT THE CUSTOMER!!! YOU ARE THE PRODUCT!!!!

It astounds me how many people STILL don't understand this

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Aren't they more successful than ever? Sure anyone with half a brain avoids them, but everyone's Grandma has an account now. Still a net positive.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The article is talking about killing it from a product usefulness-perspective, not a monkey making-perspective.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please never fix that typo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

I'll keep it, cheers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And they are serving lots of ads under the radar and shaping their tastes by intermixing the ads seamlessly with entertainment to bypass our advertisement "antibodies". Sometimes I find some of them saying things and having interests I've never known they had only to find their feed randomly peppered with these interlopers.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Good for them. The people deliberately killing Facebook, I mean.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've now read several of these from wheresyoured.at, and I find them to be well-researched, well-written, very dramatic (if a little ranty), but ultimately stopping short of any structural or theoretical insight. It's right and good to document the shady people inside these shady companies ruining things, but they are symptoms. They are people exploiting structural problems, not the root cause of our problems. The site's perspective feels like that of someone who had a good career in tech that started before, say, 2014, and is angry at the people who are taking it too far, killing the party for everyone. I'm not saying that there's anything inherently wrong with that perspective, but it's certainly a very specific one, and one that I don't particularly care for.

Even "the rot economy," which seems to be their big theoretical underpinning, has this problem. It puts at its center the agency of bad actors in venture capital becoming overly-obsessed with growth. I agree with the discussion about the fallout from that, but it's just lacking in a theory beyond "there are some shitty people being shitty."

[–] mark 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is an interesting perspective, and I very much see how people can have it. Totally agree that the internet just isn't like it used to be, arguably for the worst, depending on who you ask.

As much as I hate these big tech platforms, the issue isn't that they're doing what they're doing. After all, capitalistic societies (especially the US) don't just ignore it, they actually encourage this sort of "money above all else" mentally that a lot of these CEOs and shareholders have. So what platforms are doing shouldn't surprise anyone. Maybe some of it should be made illegal, but I'd argue making new laws still won't really address the problem.

The real problem is that we (everyday people) need to take more responsibility over the mental health of ourselves and our children and just stop using this brain-rotting software. We can complain about what they're doing to humanity all we want, but if we continue to use these platforms, we're just making it easier for them to do the bad things they do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Facebook is still around? Wow I left that over a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Zuck and his cabal are all in on line go up even if they have to give kids to pedos(they have, and are), get people addicted, and fuck with people's mental well-being.