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[–] [email protected] 114 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Remember the people suggesting to change the Hell Divers negative reviews because Sony listened?

They have learned nothing

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Steam is like the only company that I actually somewhat trust

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] UndercoverUlrikHD 62 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Better than Steam I'd argue. Unlike Steam, games you buy on GOG are yours to keep forever. No DRM like steam that ~~forces you to log on after a few days offline~~. You also get better version control.

Edit: the offline limit was a bug. Offline restrictions would be dependent on the DRM solution for each individual game.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are DRM free games on steam. If you can launch the game directly from the exe while steam is off, then the game is DRM free.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD 12 points 5 months ago

I'm aware, however it's not as transparent and Steam does not provide the same guarantees that GOG do.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

The DRM layers are added by game publishers, not by Steam, but yeah it is a little annoying that games on steam have to be launched through steam. There are some fake Steam overheads floating around to bypass that for use of running games on multiple local machines simultaneously.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I liked it until CD Project Red showed they care about the shareholders more than the users with Cyberpunk. It's clear that GOG will flip to be anti-consumer as soon as the shareholders change the company leadership. Enshittification comes for all companies because business majors don't understand people.

Steam is private and Gaben is benevolent so that worry is distant. I also have no illusions that should Steam ever go public or change hands then the inevitable end of good, customer needs focused storefronts. But for now, Gave has proven he knows how to make a place consumers like myself want to use.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Gave Newell is 60+ years old and haven't exactly taken the most care for his own health. We don't know what will happen once he is gone.

With GOG there is nothing a change of leadership can do to your existing game library.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, CD Project had one of the worst stores and biased "media" in Poland. They region locked my games and told me "no one from abroad buys games :)" when I wrote to them that I can no longer Access my account or games.

GoG might be good now, but that still hurts me when I was a teenager and moved abroad. It was the only thing I had and they took it away from me. Fuck their DRM of old. Funny how they had the worst drm known to mankind and now have drm free store...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For now. They still cave to Nintendo's pressure

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that whole Dolphin thing was weird. Seemed like valve just didn't want to deal with the legal headaches of fighting Nintendo in court over an application that didn't really need to be on the steam store in the first place.

Can't say I blame them really.

Personal opinion time: I don't think emulators belong on a commercial store anyway. Keep them on their own websites or Github. Putting them on a store like steam is just asking for trouble.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Steam has got to be considering blacklisting them as a publisher over this. This is so, so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm afraid they would just make yet another barely functioning launcher/storefront

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We need to blacklist anti-libre software. They do this because we let them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I wasnt considering buying any more snoy games after this whole debacle, and I certainly won't if they make their own launcher. But unfortunately the average gamer just doesn't care :(

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why would they? They still get a %30 cut of those $70 games. Blacklisting them would just be giving GoG and Epic a leg up in being the only stores you can play Sony blockbusters.

Just a reminder that the steam Refund policy in America is illegal everywhere else in the world. They aren't this great company that's consumer first. They are trying to make as much money as possible and have Allowed the likes of 2k games and EA to be as scummy as possible on their platform.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Don’t give your competitors a win

It’s the same reason sports leagues don’t punish good players

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I hope they bill Sony ten times of what they are losing out on now. They need to set a precedent that no other publisher will want to repeat what Sony did.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, they’ve got to come up with some publisher-aimed punitive actions, because this is frankly indefensible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Charge 30% of sales and 100% of refunds.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Sony got the “ you should be grateful it isn’t a play station exclusive”

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I'm not in an affected country, nor did I plan to play multiplayer, but I still removed it from my wishlist and decided to boycott all titles requiring a PSN account. If you want to have some option but annoying account service, fine. I can survive clicking the X on that. But if they push this hard then we know they'll push this onto all games next.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago

Companies whinge about piracy yet they incentivise it with their shitty practices

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dang, why do they love to ruin the good will they collected.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People are paying a monthly fee for multiplayer on PlayStation. I assume that is Sony's goal for their PC ports.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

That, MAUs to brag about to investors, or data harvesting through linked accounts. Or all three.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Maybe it gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

Good guy Steam.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sony could resolve this by allowing any country to register an account, but they don't lol

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago

Or by making the PSN account an optional feature, the way these shitty integrations almost always were.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

The better solution is to not force a third-party tie-in that doesn't really do anything

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

There are often legal issues to be resolved for each individual country. It's possible, but expensive. Ultimately, linking accounts at all is an unnecessary requirement that exists for Sony's benefit, not yours.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good guy Steam ensuring that people with peg legs, hook hands, and eyepatches get that 100% disability discount

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

i swear to fucking god if they do this with horizon

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (12 children)

There's a multiplayer mode. I believe, although I do not know, that it was announced that there would be no PSN requirement for single player mode.

I have no fucking clue what the play is here. Why the ban instead of a huge flashing disclaimer on the store page and when you first open the game saying "You have to use our shitty services if you want multiplayer"? That would solve a lot of issues and they wouldn't need to ban it anywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Sony: You people don't have normal passports?

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