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[–] [email protected] 100 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Congratulations, Nintendo, you forced us to find a way to distribute illegal source code. I hope it was worth it.

I've long since been boycotting Nintendo and plan to continue doing so for the foreseeable future. Tux Kart is better than Mario Kart anyway.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago

Legal source code

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its not illegal, Nintendo just doesnt like it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not to "um, actually", but I'm gonna "um actually" - technically, using git to host code in a decentralized fashion has been a standard capability of git since it's inception. So it's not really a new idea, just a new iteration

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

All I hear is “I don’t understand git remotes and what radicle does”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

https://radicle.xyz

The Radicle protocol leverages cryptographic identities for code and social artifacts, utilizes Git for efficient data transfer between peers, and employs a custom gossip protocol for exchanging repository metadata.

So it has a gossip protocol to spread the repo, and a common format for artifacts (issues, PRs, etc) to act more like GitHub.

I don’t know too much more because I just started looking into it a month or two ago and haven’t done a deep dive. But it’s a layer on top of git to spread repositories peer to peer instead of manually having people add remotes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nice, thanks for the info!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks for politely asking for more info. I find myself a bit brash sometimes as I live on crypto twitter as my day job. So sorry if the initial message was harsh; I deal with a lot of shit posters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Holy shit this looks awesome. Thanks. Lol

[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So I guess that would make it more resilient agains Nintendos efforts to destroy all emulators?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hosting is part of it, but didn't they legally restrict Yuzu's developers from working on the emulator? That seems to be a far greater obstacle to me.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They convinced the yuzu team to officially not work on yuzu anymore, but I guess the devs could still work on it using their private account or in form of another another team. The major problem was thir patreon locked pre-releases

But I’m not a legal expert

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Also, I think it's safe to assume what you have provided is not legal advice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't they work on it now as its hosted via p2p? How would they know

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

I would think the devs wouldn't want to risk it. Assuming they are barred from working on it, if they slip up & reveal something about themselves while working or committing, they may be targeted even harder.

[–] onlinepersona 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Amazing. The first medium project on radicle. If this node stops syncing this repo, it should be easy enough to have another node sync it.

However, I'm not sure if radicle has discoverability built in. With torrents, a magnet link allows finding it, and IPFS just has a hash allowing you to find it. If radicle just needs a hash to find a node with it, that would make it easy for nintendo to list all the nodes and send them a take down notice (which would or would not be heeded, depending on the operator). Regardless, radicle might support anonymous hosting with I2P, which would make nintendo or any other party powerless and unable to send takedown notices to the anonymous servers.

Additionally, it isn't clear to me how to contribute to radicle projects yet. Developers will have to learn how to contribute to P2P hosted projects now, but that's probably not a big learning curve.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This would be the identifier: rad:z3SNcAzHydhWtfaFTiq9S643GQjYU

[–] onlinepersona 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does that enable some kind search throughout the radicle network for a project with that ID in order to pull/clone it?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, you can gossip the list of peers with that identifier.

[–] onlinepersona 1 points 6 months ago
[–] refalo 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Has any company ever sent a DMCA for content that wasn't accessible via http(s) or torrent?

[–] onlinepersona 1 points 6 months ago

If it was popular, probably? But I wouldn't know.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Beside the code being hosted in many places, is there any of the forks moving forward / worth upgrading to?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago

Suyu is the most popular + actively developed afaik.
https://suyu.dev/

They host their code on their own Forgejo instance:
https://git.suyu.dev/explore/repos

Which is more DMCA proof then Github/Gitlab.

I hope ForgeFed will go into production soon,
then we can synchronize the code in between multiple Forgejo instances in a federated fashion.
https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

I didn't even know this was a thing, but now I suddenly want to pirate Nintendo games

[–] zinderic 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay, one thing for me to do then..

rad seed rad:z3SNcAzHydhWtfaFTiq9S643GQjYU

Done! :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

BRB, getting this tattooed and visiting the Nintendo headquarters

[–] zinderic 1 points 6 months ago

I hope I won't need a lawyer after you do 😂

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

I wish y'all could've heard the laugh I let out when I saw this post. Fuck GitHub & fuck Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why not codeberg or sourcehut?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can find a backup of Yuzu (and other stuff like Ryujinx or Dolphin in case it gets taken down at some point) on Suyu's Forgejo (the same software that's used by Codeberg) instance: https://git.suyu.dev/yuzu-emu/yuzu

It’s also available via Tor as an onion site: http://suyudev2qxj5x7mroamgwf4hqunz4pups27z2kl77x4ioqhh5yhpshad.onion/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The onion option makes more sense (standard solution, battle-tested). Not sure about POW resilience, compared to distributed hosting though.

[–] onlinepersona 20 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Fuck Github, let's switch to Radicle