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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago

The buyer is a comedian. His bid was 4-BOOBS.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Is that a good deal? I mean, it says "multi-million" and then it sells for less than 1/2 million, so I'm guessing good deal.

IDK, part it out on eBay?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Theres a non-zero chance that Linus Sebastian just did something really dumb. LoL.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If someone doesn't know that person by name, here is a picture of him:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

In case anyone confuses him with Linus Torvalds:

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The CPUs are almost 10 years old. What are they supposed to be worth?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

About $15 per CPU on ebay or so, so about $121,000 USD for the CPU's alone

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Have fun selling 8000 individual CPUs on eBay, so handling, storage, shipping... and even if that is for free it would only be 1/4 of what they paid. Not too mention that flooding the marked will mean the pieces goes down.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That is true and all, but have it occur to you the person who's spending all this might not care about money?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Next week we find out russia has their missile cpu problem “mysteriously solved”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Hope you're joking, because this is not how any of this works.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

13% eBay fees, around $5 to pack and ship it, not including your time. Around $8 net per chip, so, $60k less returns/losses, then taxes on that. It might be worth it for one of those large liquidation companies, but they usually charge companies to recycle their equipment or pay very little at auctions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

For the E5-2697 v4 that are in this server I see much higher prices even on Chinese e-waste resellers, about $45

But I don't think that there's enough demand on the market for 8000 of them

Maybe if you pair with those unstable "x79” Chinese desktop motherboards with server sockets and then sell them as package like "ATX motherboard with 18 cores CPU and 256 gb ECC RAM" maybe can find more customers

For the ram they're going to make much more, 5000 sticks of 64gb ECC DDR4 are still expensive

Edit: no, I accidentally saw the prices of unregistered ECC RAM. Registered ECC RAM is very cheap and super abundant as only servers use that. Corps aren't stupid and buy used memory for their expensive servers, so when a server is decommissioned, registered ECC RAM is dumped on ebay for pennies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ah I thought I saw v3 when I looked it up, so about double the price then but with fees (and probably low demand) my original estimate was probably correct enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I haven't run anything older than Skylake since 2020. I imagine anyone planning to run these either hasn't done the math on energy costs or lives somewhere where electricity is dirt cheap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I currently run 2 of these xeon CPUs in my server. When I specced it out I was looking at about $300/year of energy usage and that was running at like 50% capacity daily. The thing has half the cores disabled because I currently don't need that much compute and the only thing running on it daily is TrueNAS. It has ran multiple game servers and labs in the past few months and still doesn't use that much compute. Really just depends what you're doing with it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ian Cutress recently did a video on the topic here (I think he changed the title to reflect the end price of the auction), which does a bit of a breakdown. You for example also have to add shipping costs (from a certified company) to the price.

Pretty crazy to think that it is actually not sure whether spending less than 500k on a supercomputer is worth it. Goes to show how far technology has come.

I guess if everything sells you might make profit, but then it also comes with a lot of hassle and risk. And for actually using it, I imagine that electricity cost would be a huge factor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty crazy to think that it is actually not sure whether spending less than 500k on a supercomputer is worth it.

Has more to do with the market for supercomputers. They are monsters to keep fed so it's not a question of if you can buy it but rather if you can run it. But customers for supercomputers are in the market because they need the most raw power that the technology is capable of supplying, so buying and installing a decade old supercomputer (which is going to have the same operating costs at a lower capability than a new one) doesn't make sense.

You also have to consider that the downtime's going to be a lot higher on this equipment as you're going to start having components hit the end of their useful life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What about the metal costs? Is this thing worth at this price for disassembly and salvaging?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There are only tiny amounts of precious metals in there.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I mean there definitely are some valuable metals in there, but I can't imagine that this is a competitive price to pay for them, especially since extraction wouldn't be easy. And some parts do have value, even if it ends up being the case that running the full cluster isn't economic anymore.

I do wonder who at this point could use all those processors (and Mainboards), but the ram might still be reasonable to use, maybe the cables, the cabinets themselves too. And I think the video also mentions that there are two managing servers. Those might be most likely to actually be useful for their original purpose.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's likely not worth using, maybe splitting the nodes out individually for colleges to use for research projects for a few years. The cabinets are probably worth something because of the graphics on them. The power consumption, lack of the high speed storage, and large scale industrial cooling system make it impractical to use. You would probably need an entire power substation in order to run it. You could probably install it at an industrial site, but you would still need to come up with networking and installation, which could cost more than what you paid for the thing in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't think anyone thinks a hobbyist would be buying this thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean, even if some company has a practical need for it, or even just wanted to sell compute time on it, it wouldn't be worth it due to the operating and installation costs. Although, it wouldn't surprise me to see individual nodes from this poping up on /r/homelab, those guys are nuts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

So what’s the point in buying it?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Inflation is wild. Just a few decades ago, you could get this kind of thing for just an arm and a leg.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

313TB RAM?!?

The array's services were used by scientists across the state of Wyoming and the rest of the country when needed. The 5.34 petaflops system was mainly used for weather and climate studies, helping the National Science Foundation better study climate change and other Earth-related sciences.

Yeah that makes sense

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Enough to run Chrome and 2 Electron apps!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Let’s not get carried away.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Those clowns who told me a RasPi would cover my needs will be proven wrong now!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Home lab for booba.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Finally, a computer that can run unoptimized Minecraft and the desktop Discord client!

(not both at once, though)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Mr beast: I bought one of the world's fastest computer and we are going to run the biggest Minecraft server in the world for a competition with 1 million players! the winner will get 10000 dollars and also I'm donating 10000 diapers to Angola

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I don't know why anyone would buy this. Maybe it's one of those precious metal reclamation groups.

Generally hardware that old is cheaper to replace with newer more efficient hardware than to even consider running due to electricity costs.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago

r/homelab poster: "hey guys, check out my starter homelab! My electrical utility sends me a free thank you card every month!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Selling for parts. Techtechpotato did a rough estimate and RAM/CPUs alone are currently worth and 1M (using eBay prices). If you add all the support components (network cards, mainboards, PSUs) it might be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The piecemeal nature of selling thousands of parts means the wages for a group necessary to coordinate it all would probably make the whole thing not feasible.

Ebay prices are higher than market prices imo. 15% ebay cut + 3% paypal fees + sales tax + shipping is brutal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yes and no. You can sell easily 2-3 units at the current price, but 8000 pieces...

Technology is improving fast, the E5-2697 v4 has a similar benchmark to a Ryzen 5600, which uses half the power, and making a computer with desktop components is cheaper (except for used registered ECC RAM which is being dumped for cheap)

And that Ryzen is the old generation, the newer are even faster

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Next he can install Skyrim and all the mods. ALL THE MODS!!!

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