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You know, I always used to say they ought to do this. But now, presented with the reality of it, I don't like it at all.
I mean, when the state of Louisiana agrees, it's only reasonable to wonder if you're being the baddy.
If I've learned anything after coming back to the south south (for some dumb reason) if you find yourself agreeing with the state you're definitely the baddy, with ☠️ and all.
This is because we can be of two minds about these things. You can have a personal response to heinous acts, but still think the government ought to be better.
If some guy murders the murderer of their kid, I can absolutely 100% understand why, and I could even admit that I might do the same in their position. But I still think that as a society we should not lower ourselves to this standard and I will always be against the death penalty (especially because the system will never be perfect and I will never think it's worth killing even one innocent person by accident).
It's why vigilante justice is so easily understood, but it's still something we, as a society, shouldn't accept.
Emotional reactions can cloud our minds to these things. But I absolutely agree with you. This is horrendous and barbarous. I can still somewhat understand the "he deserves it for what he did"-response, but I'm absolutely against this on a deeper level.
I don't think it's about having "Two minds" about it, for as you describe it doesn't seem to fit the op, as he admitted that he wanted the state to do it.
Imo, this is about abstraction vs reality. In theory something might sound good, but when you are actually faced with the reality of it, it's a huge turnoff.
I'm reminded of the reddit story where a guy got into scat porn. It became a fetish so he hired a prostitute to shit in his mouth. On the day of the deed, once the shit hit his mouth, as he described it, he was "just a guy on the floor with shit in his mouth."
The shit is just hitting the OPs mouth right now.
Yeah I get wanting it, but I don’t want a government that can do it. I also don’t think a reasonable interpretation of the bill of rights allows it. How is removing body parts not cruel and unusual punishment?
Any punishment with no possibility of back pedaling should never be given. The chances of permanently harming a potentially innocent person are far too great.
The state having the power to do this is horrible. A victim doing this to their attacker with a butter knife on the other hand.
This falls squarely under no cruel and unusual punishment for me. Heinous as the crime was this is just inhuman.
I'll take, "Laws that violate the 8th Amendment" for $100, Alex.
Nah see the 8th amendment no longer applies because he's a criminal.
-Louisiana State Supreme Court
Probably
So if Trump is found guilty...
Making that poor old man sit in court for over 20 minutes is a violation of the 8th amendment if you listen to fox news.
What does physical or chemical castration even mean? And why is this a punishment when he is 100 years old?
Also, under current law there, no abortions are allowed unless life of mother is at risk, so they will castrate the rapist but force the mother to give birth?
What the actual fuck
Chemical castration is the lowering of hormones medically. Physical castration would by physical removal of the testes.
Welcome back to the dark ages. See you at next week's drawing and quartering. It's right after the hangings! Hopefully we get some real kickers!
Lowering hormones medically? Sounds like something Trans, and that's illegal in the south.
Why add the physical castration part to plea if it doesn’t take effect until he’s 100, seems so pointless.
The American legal system is so barbarically fucked up.
Maybe to have it as a required part of his sentence, so while time can be reduced, perhaps the castration can't? I.e. he couldn't be released early unless he went through with the castration.
I dunno, I'm not a lawyer, just my guess. Fucked up either way on all sides of this.
Barbaric and inhumane. Cruel and unusual.
and also just....weirdly fucking pointless. They are waiting till he is 100 to castrate him?
Look, this guy is obviously a monster, but castrating someone doesn't undo the harm. That's just barbaric. Hard labor making license plates all day? Sure. Long sentence? I could see that.
We gotta have some moral minimums, though. Stuff like execution and castration is too far. What if they have the wrong guy? Even if it was him, mutilating their bodies is not what we should be doing on this continent.
enslavement is also barbaric
Wouldn't this be considered "cruel or unusual punishment" which is banned by the constitution?
Yes.
Let's not cheer a society that cuts off the balls of rapists, just like we don't cheer for societies that cut off the hands of thieves.
What the shit? Are they going to bring back "an eye for an eye" next?