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[–] [email protected] 86 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Their hardware is also garbage. My MX Anywhere 3 lasted only two years. I had no brand Chinese mice that lasted longer.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

sweats in 1 yr 10 mos of ownership What happened to it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Capitalism happened. Designed to fail.

EVGA hardware sucks balls

Corsair hardware sucks balls

Razor hardware sucks balls

Logitech hardware sucks balls

Oddly enough, the only mouse that I've NEVER had issues with is a 5$ chinese MMO mouse with zero software or 'fancy crap' embedded. It just works. That mouse is now $50 for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Have to disagree on EVGA. I’ve purchased a lot of their hardware and any time I had an issue their support and RMAs were great. I’m really sad they got out of the video card business.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You disagree that they have hardware issues because they handled your return well when you had... hardware issues?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have had probably 5 of their video cards and 4 or 5 of their power supplies. I've had one video card die a month before the 3 year warranty was up, and they sent me a much more powerful card as a replacement. That's good service.

I've had one power supply die and they cross shipped me a replacement, had it 3 days later.

Nothing is bulletproof, components fail. It's how the company handles it that matters, to me.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

EVGA is THE WORST imo

My 5dollarjunky mouse is running on 8 years now.

During those 8 years I attempted upgrades. I have 2 broken razor mine that won't left click constantly.

I have 3 EVGA x15 mice that won't stay connected. Issue persists on multiple computers and is seemingly random. I bought 1, and they sent me replacements twice.

I went back to my cheap Chinese mouse as a result.

I keep the garbage as a reminder to not buy those companies stuff.only thing I give EVGA credit for is their video cards. Amazing quality.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have to say i own a decent amount of Corsair hardware (kb+m, RAM, SSD and PSU), and none has ever given me an issue. Most of it I got a few years back so maybe that was before they declined?

Compared to Razer, where I've owned 3 mice and all of them failed one way or another. Decent keyboards though.

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[–] riskable 6 points 7 months ago

Catastrophe

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, I have Logitech keyboards and mice that I bought more than a decade ago still going strong

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

In general their mice are weirdly perverse in the way they fail. I've never seen one fail in any way besides the buttons, usually failing into double-clicking. Like it feels like they would last super-long if they just used better components for the buttons. The mousewheel has never failed on me, the radio has never failed on me, the main sensor has never failed on me, nor the laser... just the clicky buttons.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Even their hardware is suffering.

I moved to a knockoff trackball (Nulea) that's considerably better so far, simply because I went through two trackballs in three years.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I used to have a pair of logitech G35 headphones and they were the best headphones I've ever had. When they eventually broke I replaced them with the newer G635 and they're so much worse. I can't even use the buttons on them because they don't send any keycode at all before being initialized by the software which is windows only

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Was it the switches on the right/left mouse button? That's usually my failure point.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have personally RMAed 3 mouses for double click issues and replaced the switches in my current mouse. Hardware is bad.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Jumping on the Logitech hardware trashing. Bought two G613 keyboards in the past couple years. Each one failed shortly after the 1 year warranty period. Both had the same double pressing chatter issue. I’ve been avoiding their mice for a while due to double clicking problems.

[–] derpgon 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Headphones are absolute trash and die constantly. But their MX Master series? I couldn't be happier if I tried. Absolute top of the line. Gaming keyboards look the same cheap trash as others, so I wouldn't wanna try em anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

My right-out-of-warranty Logitech M590 mouse lost its pairing to its USB-receiver upon booting up Windows after using the mouse in Linux for weeks out-of-warranty. I bought another one, and that too did the same the first time I booted up Windows after the warranty had expired.

Finally I searched the issue, and it's normal. I had to install a non-default Logitech software in Windows and re-pair the apparently broken mice to their receivers. Both mice work again, except the older one's left button is acting up a bit.

A non-asshole company would have notified me "Your mouse receiver needs an update that requires re-pairing the connection manually. Do you want to continue the update?". And why the hell would a mouse receiver need an update when the warranty ends?

Obviously the purpose is to make the mouse appear broken with plausible deniability and bluff the customer into buying a new mouse.

This is known as programmed obsolescence.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I literally only use hardware saved profiles to avoid loading their shitty software 24/7

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (16 children)

As a peripherals enthusiasts (i own a dozen keyboards about 50 mice and have used about two dozen different audio solutions), they're hardware sucks ass, the only mouse they have that's kind of worth getting is the gpx (which is hella overpriced), they have no good keyboards or headsets/headphones, their mics and webcams are painfully mediocre

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Today's Logitech sucks. A decade ago they were the best in the mouse game.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly their mice were pretty good even 3 years ago, it's just that advancements have happened so fast and logitech has completely neglected to try

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't need advancements. I need a new mouse to track as well as a 10 year old mouse and register a single click when I click.

I wouldn't even need a new mouse but 10 years ago both Logitech and MS put soft touch coating on their mouses which turns to glue as it ages.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Their "Onboard memory manager" software for their mouses is actually pretty good. It's only 10MB in size and doesn't require any installation. The only downside is that I had to "enable" the onboard memory of my mouse by first installing their usual crap software.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve never understood that. What’s the benefit? Is it for switching between multiple computers and not losing your settings?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes. And I think some high end mouses can store multiple preset settings in memory to switch on the fly without requiring any software. Moreover, there are some scenarios in which you can't install any software, in an office-issued computer or in a eSports tournament computer.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Every Logitech mouse I've owned has failed mechanically.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Logitech hardware used to be good, but even that's gone to shit. Got tired of their awful mechanical mice switches failing and switched to a Razer mouse with optical switches, no regrets.

Razer might actually fit better in this meme.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Has razer hardware gotten better? I stopped buying after 2 of their mice stopped working just after the warranty expired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Razer hardware is pretty good, but the death adder definitely has a shelf life. The scroll wheel goes soft and the click switches go bad but that's fixable.

The software is hot steaming dogshit. No other description fits. It'll work fine for a few months or a year but then it starts crashing regularly for no reason. I tried a firmware update on my black widow 2012 and it bricked it. While searching for help, I discovered it was A KNOWN ISSUE THAT HADN'T BEEN FIXED IN 2 YEARS. They jerked me around about the warranty and I raised enough hell that they RMAd it with a newer black widow. I bought the 2012 edition purposely because it was blue and the new one was green so I was miffed about that, but it's held up and is still my current emergency backup keyboard. It can deal with generic drivers though. Synapse will never touch my pc while I'm alive and I'm never giving razer another cent.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Are there any hardware manufacturers who write good software?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It depends what you call good, but Apple software is usually good, if you agree with their overall approach and philosophy of walled garden.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People always say this but I find their software really annoying to use.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Apple mouse is one of the most infuriating pieces of technology I have ever used.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

You’re referring to hardware here.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know some of their hardware also sucks for the people saying that. I've had a share of crappy logitech stuff that kind of pissed me off. But, I love my MX master 3. I use it for work, it is so fun to wind your finger up and scroll downward on whatever long winded scroll able item you may happen upon. I had it for 2.5 years, it's still trucking, I feel like I only charged it 4 times. It's truly awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've been reporting this bug for years.

Still not fixed. I've made several support reps try this and had their mice lose the ability to left click or leave g-shift mode, as I've walked them through duplicating the issue, and yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Both suck.

Had TWO G413 keyboard where the E-key just stopped registering keypresses sometimes. Third one got the same issue on left ctrl.. returned and got a custom keyboard lmao.

I also had a G Pro X Superlight whatever and it took only 4 months to develop double clicking and super weird tracking issues like stuttery cursor movement and sometimes just stopping to work unless I restarted or re-plugged the mouse. Recently got a Lamzu Thorn. Easily the best mouse I have ever had, can recommend over Logitech's garbage

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Nah bro. This is Corsair.

I literally got rid of a fucking awesome Corsair mouse because the software was such utter dogshit. It would straight up crash during games. And my wife had exactly the same problems on her PC, so it wasn't anything unique to my set up. My mouse was wireless, hers was wired, both absolutely sucked. The hardware was great, but the software absolutely ruined them.

Logitech software is fine. Not perfect, but it absolutely does the job.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have an older G503 mouse that's still going really strong. Unfortunately I also have a newer G503 mouse and it has the notorious double-clicking with a single click bug. It died within just a few months, it also had shittier components like the non-braided cable.

I've switched over to Corsair which is a little better but I miss the super smooth free-spinny scroll wheel that are on the Logitech mice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm still using the same G502 from like 10 years ago. lol

i wish i could buy another...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

5 year old G604 for me! (I like extra buttons)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah Logitech Options sucked already, now Options+ is even worse. I switched to BetterMouse on Mac. $12 one time purchase and it’s a lot nicer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

What is this meme? Logitech hardware sucks ass too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Logitech hardware used to be the best. I can't remember what I was called offhand but years ago I had a wireless Logitech mouse that came with a little transceiver/charging cradle. I think I used it for ten years. By the time one of the switches died, I'd completely worn its little rubber feet off. It was fantastic.

Other, later Logitech purchases didn't hold up at all. Went through a couple headsets (the behind the head kind) and they each fell apart in a year or two.

I did go with a G502X for my current mouse simply because I couldn't find anything I liked better, but I have no illusions about how long this one will last.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

MX Ergo, customization via logi software. My mouse can’t decide if it’s fast or slow, or which direction to scroll. It’s just like, why not both?

Thankfully I realized just how bad it was before the return window closed.

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