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[–] [email protected] 89 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sucks, but better than overstay your welcome (Dexter) or get cancelled with a big cliffhanger (My name is Earl)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

overstay your welcome (Dexter)

I blame the late Manny Coto for that. I blame him for a lot of bad TV, actually. lol (ENT was the exception, somehow)

or get cancelled with a big cliffhanger (My name is Earl)

Wasn't that due to the Writer's Strike? Regardless, showrunners should never end a season on a cliffhanger when the studios have shown they'll pull the plug for any reason whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

During an interview with the "Slick & Thick" podcast, Ethan Suplee, who portrayed Randy Hickey, revealed that, ultimately, the cancellation was due to communication issues between NBC, the show's network, and Fox, the show's studio.

"We were a hit. And the network called the studio and said, 'We want to license the show for another year,' and the studio said, 'Well, we want more money. We want to renegotiate our deal with you.' And the network basically did not respond for two weeks," said Suplee. "And then the studio called back and said, 'We'll take your deal,' and the network said, 'Too late.'"

Looks like plain old incompetence killed the show.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

overstay your welcome (Dexter)

That show overstayed its welcome inside the third season. It would have been a better show as a British style 3-episode / 4-season mini-ish series. But there was sooooo much filler and soooo much recycling of plots, the edginess of killing and dismembering a guy was downright trite by the time Jimmy Smits got to the set.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Sucks to see Paramount mismanage the brand over and over again.

But, hey, I still got the 90's shows on disc, so they can't take that from me.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take Star Trek from me
...
Lost my love, lost my land
Lost the last place I could stand
There's no place I can be
Since I've found the NCC

And you can't take Star Trek from me

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

My favorite episode is Janewaystown with that catchy song "The hero of Calindra"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Redshirts Unite!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This is why they will not release the 90s shows on 4k BluRay. They don't want anyone to actually own copies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They dont want people to own anything.

They want you to pay 10/month, then $12/month, then $16/month, then $22/month, on and on forever instead.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They're following Rule of Acquisition number 10: Greed is eternal.

Why have your money once when they can have it forever?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Giving Lower Decks five full seasons was more than I expected, tbh.

And Discovery's last season was decent. Strange New Worlds has held up. They could be doing better, but they've been a lot worse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I can't wait for Disney to buy the franchise and we can finally have the Star Trek/Star Wars crossover that we all deserved.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Monkey’s paw: JJ Abrams is involved in the creative process.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Coming soon to a theater near you...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (4 children)

All Good Things...

...must be ended by short-sighted executive meddling.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The modern production house simply hates animation. That's the only thing I can conclude from how they've axed every anime, kid's cartoon, and live-action/cartoon mash-up on the slate.

They are going to lock Bugs Bunny in the vault and throw away the key.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

They are going to lock Bugs Bunny in the vault and throw away the key.

Amateurs, he's going to appear right behind them for comedic effect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Except The Simpsons, South Park, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

They're on the decline. More of these programs are getting cut and fewer are going into production.

[–] Shareni 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except Futurama

Because they don't get cancelled every few seasons?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

We are living in the golden age of adult animation. -Polar Opposites -Krapopolis -The Great North -Bob's Burgers -American Dad -Archer -Grimsburg -Invinvible -Gary and hi Demons -Digman -Spiderman

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, they're pushing ahead with a Kelvinverse Star Trek origin story movie, the film exactly zero people have been clamoring for.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But... Star Trek '09 is the Kelvinverse origin story movie.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Exactly. I don't know what the hell they think they're doing, but it's totally unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Zero people except for the executives, because they’re highly profitable

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not that surprised. The show's very nature gives it a limited shelf life. Part of the fun of Trek is watching the characters develop and advance in their careers. Eventually they're gonna get promoted past what can be called lower decks.

I'm a bit pissed off that they're canceling this and going ahead with the section 31 project, but I find section 31 to be tedious at best, and that it undermines Star Trek's message at worst. "Your utopian post-scarcity society that celebrates diversity can only exist because of these unaccountable fascists slinking about behind the scenes."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Section 31 was a cool concept in ds9 because of the context around it.

Every other time 31 shows up is just... Blech. Feels like those writers want to be writing something bloodier than star trek and this is their way to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'd actually much rather see a good show end at a good spot rather than be dragged on and on until it's bled dry. 5 seasons isn't a half bad run.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Same. I love Lower Decks and really would hate to see the Paramount squeeze the IP until it's like a will-they/won't-they Mariner/Boimler pairing to boost views.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well. There goes the only reason I had paramount

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Guess I'll go and... archive that show, before they pull it altogether

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I just buy a month once a year and binge the nacelles off, but I refuse to actually subscribe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Absolutely criminal, unless we get a spinoff with them as senior officers where they do more important missions. I'm not holding out hope though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

With the Texas class disaster, they create a "Arizona Class" ship which is partially automated. The lower decks group becomes the bridge crew - and the only crew on the ship. They think they are in charge, but the computer and a shadowy group of scientists are actually pulling all the strings. Can they prove that they are the real ones in charge?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Six seasons and a movie!

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