Reddit

I'm not unconvinced that R×ddit isn't completely overtaken by shills & people who have swallowed it, hook, line, and sinker.

Have a critique? See a flaw? Something that bugs you about a product? YOU'RE WRONG, IDIOT!!! EVERYONE LOVES [thing] SO YOU ARE STUPID FOR CRITICIZING IT!!!!!

Quiets down the detractors. They don't have a voice.

Quiets down anti-capitalists, politically-motivated folk, logic-minded.. you know. People who cause trouble for those with something to sell you.

All the cool people moved to Lemmy. All that's left on Reddit is the bottom of the barrel and some people who don't have enough knowledge to switch

Attitude is the main reason I started looking for reddit alternatives over four years ago, not ui or privacy or moderation or the api stuff (which came a lot later). I have a lot of theories for why it happened (that aren't just the capitalism and astrotufing circlejerk) but they're hard to back with substantial evidence

A lot of the progressive-minded people have left, leaving a much higher percentage of conservatives and jackasses.

I suspect many people who generally want to be kind and helpful have given up trying there. I know I certainly have. Look how active I am here, that's a lot genuine engagement they've lost and I know I'm not the only one.

How is going to be called after the next iteration? newnew.reddit.com? newish.reddit.com?

It probably is a new version of Facebook. Think about the age demographics

I think that was the goal.

Agree.

reddit has a huge backlog of billions of posts. until lemmy keeps up with it, i won't completely leave reddit, because my favorite part about reddit is exploring obscure communities, which lemmy does not have. (I'm using lemmy for actual discussions and stuff) Also I think it's still the most decent network out of all big tech ones, i.e. it's not as bad as fucking Instagram or whatever...

In my opinion. The majority of computer/phone users is not very technical. They get used to how something they use works. It keeps working as is for a long time.

Then when small changes make it worse, they just accept them. Its just a bit worse. No biggie, then at some point they are used to the new normal. Something else gets worse and the whole thing repeats. It has to be literally unusable before such users switch to a new thing. Like reddits servers need to shut down, that kind of unusable.

95% of users are like that (1).

1. citation needed...

None of the niche communities I am interested in exist on lemmy. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won’t. It’s more or less useless beyond doom scrolling. I miss reddit because I miss having all of my useful forums in one place with a better thread format, and I didn’t need to remember a bunch of accounts to participate in something like /r/tipofmytongue or /r/bikewrench periodically. Lemmy is just a political news space with memes and that’s not going to attract everyone.

Yeah the point of the post is to say that's becoming the default now. I can always type in new.reddit.com, but any link I click will take me back to this

I disagree, you can see so much on the old layout specifically because it's a wall of text. The new layout is unnecessarily bloated and takes up your whole screen on every device you view it from, so you can barely see more than one or two posts at a time. It removes the ability for the user to freely scroll and look at things that interest them, and forces the user's attention onto exactly what the algorithm wants them to. The new layout removes a ton of agency from the user.

I don't like how it looks either. Way too busy. Only thing is, it is lightweight though. New reddit usually crawls to a halt after half an hour of scrolling (which is probably good for my mental health).

Old reddit absolutely had its issues. The new and newnew design is just decisively worse however.

For the mobile UI:
Old reddit: Yes
Around Reddit API debacle: Alright UI
Newest Reddit UI: Annoying

The new layout blobby and spyware

Ya I noticed that shreddit uses a similar layout to photon