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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/177673

Today, a bunch of new instances appeared in the top of the user count list. It appears that these instances are all being bombarded by bot sign-ups.

For now, it seems that the bots are especially targeting instances that have:

  • Open sign-ups
  • No captcha
  • No e-mail verification

I have put together a spreadsheet of some of the most suspicious cases here.

If this is affecting you, I would highly recommend considering one of the following options:

  1. Close sign-ups entirely
  2. Only allow sign-ups with applications
  3. Enable e-mail verification + captcha for sign-ups

Additionally, I would recommend pre-emptively banning as many bot accounts as possible, before they start posting spam!

Please comment below if you have any questions or anything useful to add.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I make fun of conspiracy theorists, but what the actual fuck? Makes me wonder how many real people I've actually interacted with on reddit? Maybe none.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I'm a real person. Lemme check

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Definitely bot, he never came back.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I think you have the wrong idea. These are just sign-ups. It is very easy to automate without precautions in place and is unrelated to bots pretending to be human in comments.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Wasn't there a theory on 4chan about how the internet will turn into a network of robots communicating with each other, creating content for other bots, and artificially generating outrage? No actual humans would use the internet because it would be only AI. Controlling the internet, AI controls information and thus humanity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked your comment very much and this made me look into your profile. Amazing content. I would like to add you in my friend list but facebook didn't let me. If you want please send me a friend request and I would love to know you better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oops wrong platform

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Resistance is futile"

In male chorus voice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been skeptical about every reddit comment I've replied to since the '14 midterms, that felt like the year the bot accounts really became a significant chunk of reddit's numbers. It's been horrible since the '16 general election; I'm really not heartbroken to have left.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This happened to me, although luckily I managed to turn off registration after about 80 signups. I did have email verification enabled but noticed that every single email address was fake/the email bounced, so they havent been able to verify the accounts and post.

I have now enabled applications (along with email verification) - does anyone have any opinion on using captcha instead of applications? I feel like captcha has already been defeated by bots.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fwiw the captcha support in lemmy is probably going away soon. It needs to be reimplemented into another database table (or something like that) anyway. Given that it is too hard for many humans, too easy for many bots, and devs are slammed with work, makes more sense to delete as a first step

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have the time right now but someone should double check if captcha rework is in the GitHub issues as well so that they not only remove it but keep track of redoing it later as well...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Captcha is seemingly what is protecting this instance. Although it is bypassable in theory, it's working for us right now.

As the other commenters mentioned they are planning to remove Captcha in the next update but also other people have created an issue on GitHub to keep Captcha.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Bypassing captcha is technically possible but very hard, hard enough that it doesn't make sense financially to do it. Keeping it is a must. If they do end up removing it, we need to add it back in (actually not that hard to do)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I caught (at the same time as lemmy.nz) the bit signups in time. I only had about 20 and @[email protected] had about 100. We both have captcha enabled now.

Interestingly none of the 20 I had had email address but username of nnn where lemmy.nz all had obvious spam email address.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

https://beehaw.org/post/662481

https://lemmy.world/post/296344

https://lemm.ee/post/177673

Some cross posts. The bot army is going to be an issue in the next few weeks. .18 drops captcha all together so any server that upgrades is going to be a target. Though a lot of servers dont run captcha, question or email verification anyways so they are already targets. Pretty sure sh.itjust.works didnt either when I signed up.

Not sure how much damage bots can do at this point other than skew the narrative and try to make these places unwelcoming but I am sure we will see first hand how bad it gets.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got sign ups with applications and a hard captcha set up. My other sites had the same issues, random spam bots. Surprisingly well behaved tbh but I don't care they're not welcome.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well behaved for now, but most likely not indefinitely. They’re either trying to steer signups to particular instance(s), or just paving the way for future astroturfing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just trying to build karma and influence, they did it on reddit all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've not seen any yet here. Only doing captcha for now but I know emails do work if needed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it seems like many of the older instances are already protecting themselves.

https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse

If you go to the top 20 fastest growing servers, they are all empty, bot filled servers as far as I can tell.

https://the-federation.info/platform/73#drawer-opened

This site seems to be doing a better job of ignoring the bot accounts, and you can see all the original active instances have only grown a modest amount in the past couple days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's hundreds of thousands of "users" within two days. It could be software testing or preparing a massive blow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I am an instance admin and I realized I did not previously have captcha on. That’s been rectified now.

Not that I get a ton of signups anyway. Ever since the join-Lemmy page of instances was reworked, I’m not popular enough to be listed :(

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