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[–] [email protected] 192 points 7 months ago (17 children)

It's uncanny how any post about problems with HP always has the same solution in the comments. Brother.

In related news, learning what Audi is doing with their new model and subscriptions makes me think the world has gone mad.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a good brand. I have their laser printer and it's great. No annoying registration, 3rd party toner cartridges are allowed. Super fast compared to inkjet. Overall a great experience compared to my HP printer which won't let me scan unless I register on the HP app.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have a network enabled model from Brother and it's never once shown up on my pi-hole. I'm a fan for life. Will never buy an HP printer again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For a second I thought you meant never showed up as in your pihole can't print to it. I was mildly surprised when my pihole automatically recognized and configured my brother printer on my network. But now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen it black holed in my query log either!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Bought a second hand brother laser because of the meme. am not disappointed.

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[–] odium 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately all the options in that industry are shit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Enshittification hitting the physical realm is pain.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Printers pioneered enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 7 months ago (14 children)
[–] [email protected] 96 points 7 months ago (7 children)

That's a real thing. Buy Brother, brother.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Has Epson also gone downhill? The first one I bought lasted 11 years, so about 3 years ago I replaced it with another Epson.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Epson with the eco tank. It's like 12 bucks for several years of ink and the thing just works.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

I’m guessing they signed up for HP Instant Ink, a monthly subscription service that monitors the ink levels in the printer and automatically mails you refills.

If you buy an HP printer, they HEAVILY promote this and offer discounts/free trials. I declined, because fuck that, but I could see someone agreeing and forgetting about it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They make the money on the ink, not the printer. Laserlet for win

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

When I was in college, I would go to micro center and buy the cheapest printer there, getting the warranty for $2.99. Run out of ink? Return it as defective and get a new printer with the gift card, paying $2.99 for the warranty again. So I paid $2.99 for ink for all 4 years of college.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Everybody donate to Pine64 so they can get that open source printer off the ground someday.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (31 children)

Epson EcoTank. They’re expensive printers, but the ink is so cheap they make up for it. I absolutely love mine and recommend it to anyone looking for a printer.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 7 months ago (14 children)

If you're gonna spend money on a decent printer, go with a laser printer unless you specifically need ink printing.

I have an HP I got like a decade ago, and only had to change the OEM toner carts in the last 6mo or so. The thing has survived 3 moves too, so it's held up like a champ. It probably helps that it's an older HP, so it was before they went to shit.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hi, this is Hewlett Packard here. We read your post and are happy you love our products! Wouldn’t it make sense for you to upgrade to one of our newer models? I’m sure you’re tired of lugging your heavy, old printer these days.

Our new ones are much lighter! Lighter in weight due to beautiful design! Lighter even on your wallet (at first, and for now)!

Won’t you consider upgrading and locking in - I mean - “purchasing” a new printer, pretty please? uwu :3

Here’s a friendly Kirby to convince you to upgrade! See, we’re cool and we know how to use product placement! Upgrade now or else!! We can’t wait for YOUR SOUL TO BE OURS.

Your Friend, HP

(We rebranded. Now the “P” stands for Predatory, but like the cute kind 😘. It’s okay to give us your money, trust us.)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yup. Inkjet printers became popular because of digital cameras. But unless you’re printing a bunch of photos, you really don’t need an inkjet. And even if you are printing photos, it’s usually better to just go to a print shop or use Google Photos.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The fact that HP didn't even say anything makes it look less like profiteering and more like spite. Idiots. I'm actually in the market for a printer and from what I can tell, in order to get something that won't stiff me in some way I have to get one which is really old. And not made by HP.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (9 children)

You just want a Brother laser jet black and white printer

It's no bullshit and will work forever

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Seen this so many times and glad to keep seeing it.

More people being informed on these scummy practices to look out for and avoid is a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (5 children)

For those who don't know, Wendigoon is a creepy lore youtuber.

He's also sometimes been acredited with creating the aesthetic of the boogaloo boys, not sure how true that is.

As far as I've heard, his videos are fairly consistent with documentation of the events he covers, such as the unibomber, the MLK assassination, etc.

It's very funny to think he wasn't radicalized before the printer situation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I did not know that! Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Yeah, he has a... questionable history, what with the "boogaloo boys" memes, but he stopped engaging with that pretty quickly around the time it became associated with Actual Nazis instead of semi-ironic government-hating libertarians.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Printers shouldn't be allowed to the edge...vlan with no Internet access.... it's a fucking printer not a web host.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

I was given a Brother printer that had spent 10+ years in a damp cellar. I already had one but this one was A3 and that could be ha'dy. Unfortunately it was an ink jet.

So, of course, I had to buy cartridges as the printer was screaming bloody murder. Alas, the whole feeding circuit and the printing head were clogged beyond salvage (the manual insists that it's not to be left unplugged for extended periods).

But that's not the point of the story. The whole (compatible) set of four cartridges was something like 17€. Also the scanner still worked just fine.

Looked like a great machine, probably not worth it to fix (new one is about 450€).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

As other comments have said. Never buy anything from HP.

Get a Brother printer.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My mom bought a cheap HP printer/scanner several years ago and subscribed to their "instant ink" subscription which was actually surprisingly cheap (like $3/mo) but once the printer stopped reliably connecting to the internet and nobody could print wirelessly anymore with it, she canceled the subscription and HP DISABLED ALL OF THE INK CARTRIDGES. The cartridges themselves have wifi connections so HP can automatically send you new ink when they get low. What a scam.

[–] spikespaz 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, they have serial numbers that are read by the printer when you try to use them. Air Gap the printer.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

I need to print once a year. When I do, I print at my local library.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

every time I see this screenshot I'm disappointed that it misses the photo of Ted Kaczynski he responded with

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Never use a smart printer. If this is your only choice, make sure this dorker has no internet connection. If it does make any sudden movements, use the 9mm.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't buy HP ever, they straight up refuse to work without wi-fi.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

My old HP printer takes XL refills and HP can't do a thing about it. I need them to know this too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s crazy how the people and govt have let this go on for so long. This has been a known issue with consumer grade printers for a long time now. I remember my parents bitching about ink costs when I was in grade school. Now these companies have raced to the bottom and are locking them down.

Personally, I have found myself to print less than a dozen pages per year. Usually it’s some government office that wants hard copy. For every instance, I just used my local Office Depot to handle all of my printing needs. So glad I don’t have to deal with printer bs

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I did an internship at an OEM that was the dying most of the revenue came from government make work money for economic development and selling machines to the 3rd world because they were too dangerous for first world.

Our high end products did this remote deactivation thing. Hated it at the time still hate it today.

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