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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That vapes cause popcorn lung. Only specific vape juice that isn't sold anymore or hard cbd oil in a vape caused popcorn lung.

That isn't to say vaping is good for you. It just doesn't cause popcorn lung

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Small correction: Vape juice ingredient, Diacetyl. It was in many different flavor components, and a juice can have five, six, eight components. It’s mostly in cream, custard, and butter flavors.

Source: Ecig juice maker for a decade

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Additionally, the whole popcorn lung scare was fear mongering at its best. Popcorn lung is called that because people who worked in popcorn factories used to get it after years of breathing in diacetyl for 40+ hours a week which was an ingredient used in the butter flavoring for popcorn. On top of that, traditional cigarettes contain diacetyl as well, at way higher levels than e cigarettes ever did, but you never heard of a smoker getting popcorn lung.

I'm not saying that vaping is harmless, it certainly is too early to know if there are any long term effects, but as of right now the only negative impact they can truthfully say is that e cigarettes cause anxiety as if anxiety among the general public isn't at an all time high anyway.

There was a huge smear campaign against a potential life saving device because big tobacco started losing boat loads of money. Pretty fucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Amen! I err on the side of caution so I’ve never used diacetyl in my juices, but I forgot that normal cigs have way more than you’d be vaping even with a diacetyl heavy flavor!

[–] towerful 2 points 7 months ago

Are you aware of any actual cases of it?
It's probably really hard to detect popcorn lung in ex-smokers (a significant demographic of vapers) amongst the wide array of damage that smoking caused to their lungs.
Did you ever figure out if the amount of diacetyls in vape juice was comparable to LD50s of diacetyls?

I vaped at the time of this all breaking, and remember trying to figure out how bad it all actually was. Or if it was a bit of "this could be better" that got blown out of proportion by ignorance and media hype.