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It had been in the works for a while, but now it has formally been adopted. From the article:

The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user, leaving sufficient time for operators to adapt the design of their products to this requirement.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno. Having to shutdown your phone to swap a battery is a very big negative in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would much prefer having smaller/fewer things to carry and not having to keep my phone tethered to an extra box over having to wait like 15 seconds. How is 15 seconds without a phone a problem?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When my battery gets low, I'm often in the middle of something. Watching a video, playing a game, chatting with people. Things I don't want to stop and have to try to resume a minute later when I could just plug in and not miss a beat.

Shutting down, swapping a battery, and restarting cannot be done in 15 seconds. I don't really think you were being literal, but you're making it seem like it would be entirely trivial. I don't think it is.

Carrying a second battery is carrying another box around

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your battery doesn't drop from 80 to zero instantly. If you're going to be "playing a game" or "watching a video" for over an hour and your battery is already at like 40 percent, you can just swap it before you start. If you're burning through a full battery and can't be interrupted...

The reboot takes like 20. Swapping the battery with a full door does literally take 15. So yeah, maybe like 45 seconds? Is that really such an inconvenience?

And sure, a spare battery is a box. But a charging brick is a bigger box. And it needs a cable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I support swappable batteries to avoid unnecessary e-waste or any other reason anyone has.

My arguing with you about the pros and cons of spare batteries vs chargers was misguided, because you're entitled to have your opinions and I don't see why I should care about your justifications for those opinions.