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It had been in the works for a while, but now it has formally been adopted. From the article:

The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user, leaving sufficient time for operators to adapt the design of their products to this requirement.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They removed physical buttons and access to batteries and now I can't do shit when an app freezes (other than attempting to turn it off, but even then the "turn off?" Can't pop up)

Why do we love do design things like shit so much? It seems that every fist world struggle I ever had was due to bad design

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Never get this point, if your phone froze and the screen is not responding, how another physical button would have solved the thing ?

And let's be honest, there is still a combination of key to hard restart any phone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because back in the olden days you could just hold down the physical power button to force a phone to shut down, same as you can do on computers still. This bypasses the frozen software and forces the phone to shut down so you can reboot it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still can ? All phones have a power button.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If my phone is frozen it doesn't respond to the power button because it's software shutdown

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Have you held it for 45 seconds?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure if you hold power and sounds button there is an hardware feature that shutdown the everything and reboot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn't true. You just have to hold the hardware restart combination for longer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can still absolutely do it

iPhone X and later: Click Volume Up, then Down, then hold the Power Button for 10-15 seconds

Android Devices: Hold Volume Down + Power for around 7-15 seconds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Back in the day, when the phone froze, my power button shut the phone down and my home button still worked, even tho the screen froze.

Now, my phone asks me if I want to restart, make a call or turn it off. ... or it opens bigsby

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just nerds bitching. This entire thread is a big old helping of I'm going to completely ignore 95% of the populations preference for a small compact phone.

Every single phone today can have the battery replaced for an extra $10 at your local shop.

This is a non issue for nerds to reeeeee about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's absolutely not true. You cannot replace the battery of a flagship phone for $10 anywhere. The going rate at Best buy is $60. And some will flatly refuse because they don't have the tools because Apple and others use ridiculous proprietary screws. Or intentionally stick a bunch of glue on the battery. Requiring repair shops to use heat, adding a huge degree of risk, and adding to the cost of the repair.

Please tell me a place where they will replace a battery for $10. Batteries themselves usually retail for $20 and then you have to account for labor.

Well I love compact phones sales suggest that they do not do very well. S10e and iPhone mini have been discontinued for that reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You are just including the cost of the battery. That's completely unrelated. You are all acting like there is this huge barrier to getting an inexpensive replacement.