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They frame it as though it's for user content, more likely it's to train AI, but in fact it gives them the right to do almost anything they want - up to (but not including) stealing the content outright.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I anticipate a LOT of audiobook authors and publishers aren’t gonna be ok with that.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago

I hope not! I hope they interpret it this way and are willing and able to take action, by removing their catalog or maybe even a class action lawsuit. 

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don't. The message right now is to boycott Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except Spotify is one of the only hopes against Audible. Audible gives terrible deals to authors, if you sell your audiobook exclusively through audible they take a 60% cut of the sale, and if you sell through multiple audiobook stores they take 75%.

And that's just the official numbers, according to this source they actually pay out even less than that. The average author's cut for an exclusive title is only 21%, and for a non-audible exclusive is only 13%.

Large established authors get significantly better deals, but all the smaller authors desperately need audiobook rivals like spotify to be a viable alternative to Audible's monopoly death grip on the industry. So it's not as simple as "boycott spotify", spotify or someone else badly needs to succeed in getting a meaningful slice of the market.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thankfully there are alternatives out there, and we should be using them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

When discussions like this happen I think it’s good to actually suggest alternatives!

I don’t listen to audiobooks, but a lot of people I know use libro.fm

Also your local library probably partners with Hoopla and/or Libby which allows you to borrow audiobooks straight to your PC/phone!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I can't wait to hear what Brandon Sanderson says about this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That is if they are aware of it. How many time do you just hit accept on a TOS agreement

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

altering the deal

Maybe it’s time people start taking their business elsewhere to show they are not satisfied with this deal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I saw this getting traction on Tik Tok a few days ago warning rightsholders they have until, I think, Mar 5th to pull their content from the platform.